calzaghes fight SPOILERS DONT ENTER IF U DONT WANA KNOW RESULTS

[Wacko3205]

Glad Joe won...also glad that I made a statement along the lines that Bika quite possibley could have posed the same probs that he did against Beyer.

Just because he had a ruff night against an opponent...doesn't mean shit.

Calzaghe is still undefeated & he's still on top...& that my friends is what counts.

[AdamGB]

Well, there's a fair bit of criticism heading Calzaghe's way tonight, and personally, I think it's somewhat unfair. Much as I hate all the commentator's cliche's it takes two to dance the rumba, or summat like that. Basically, Bika came in in the same manner as Kabary Saleem came in, looking to spoil and to rough Joe up, in the hope to ruffle him, and somehow find a winning punch. At the end of the day, Joe showed a lot of grit battling with Bika, who looks like a proper brawler. I think the cut an early fouling disturbed Calzaghe, and as happened with Saleem, once he feels he's being fouled, he goes in and fould himself. He matched a roughhouse fighter at his own game, and while he didn't do it in a perfect way, as a boxer, he did what he had to do, and took what was, eventually, a comfortable win. It won't convince the critics, except to show he's not just a boxer.

im big calzaghe fan but mate he fought poorley where was all combos he only threw like 5 combos all night bika was stronger calzaghe didnt move him with his punches on other hand bika did move him bika was physically stronger and calzaghe won by about 8 rounds to 4 maybe 9-3 but to be honest not impressive at all im very disappointed

I wonder who still thinks Calzaghe would beat Roy and Hopkins and all that other unneccesary hype they gave him after beating Lacy.

Maybe if they hadn't blown Calzaghe up out of proportion like he was the second coming of Ali, Tyson and Whitaker with Roy Jones mixed in all in prime form then maybe dissapointment wouldnt happen.

^ I want these words of wisdom on record...

[Tito BHB]

i knew as soon as i came here after the fight there would be some harsh shit goin down...
im not here to be to harsh to joe, but theres some criticism to be given out..
i knew as soon as i saw him trying to look good and mix it up with this kid he was gona hurt his hand and when he threw combo's you couldnt see there was no power cos joe kept holding back because of his injury!!
fair play to joe things certainly werent going great cos bika was a tough cookie who was strong and fought dirty as hell...
but still i wasnt impressed with that fight as i just dont think joe lived up to the motivation he was expected to give to giving a show... he jus didnt find his rythym.
i was going crazy at the commentators, they kept talking crap (itv this is) duke is a tit.
and they kept saying untrue stuff either to patch up something stupid they had said earlier or so that the casual fans that were watchin wouldnt be disapointed or think badly of joe because at the end of the day theyr still there to promote itv boxing and to promote joe calzaghe and make money for itv
if anyone would care to tel me what lennox and the hbo team said about the fight i would be greatful i think they would have been alot more critical...
also who was commentating with lennox? i cant imagine lampley or merchant would have attended the fight?
but one good thing is he won this fight and he better look good in the next one...
and also enzo mac scored a pretty big win tonight, im not over the moon but good on the guy
peace


oh yeh and micky vann was disgraceful!!
what did it take for him to break the fighters
hes a crap referee
peace again

[Sweet_T]

That low blow Joe took was disgraceful!

Credit to Joe that he shook his opponets hand at the end, I dont think I could have!

Tc

[AdamGB]

I agree Mickey Vann is a crap official full stop... and if you ask me he is in the pocket.

Not that haters or Skeptics will listen but this is what it comes down too...

Calzaghe boxed a stupid fight to impress an HBO audience and basically got into a pissing contest with a bigger stronger fighter.

he neglected to use his qualitys, which is his fault but the point I'm making is that you haven't seen the full picture...

He brawled against a very strong 12 stone fighter who was there to hold and spoil and as has been said try and land a 'money shot'

[Snakey]

I agree Mickey Vann is a crap official full stop... and if you ask me he is in the pocket.

Not that haters or Skeptics will listen but this is what it comes down too...

Calzaghe boxed a stupid fight to impress an HBO audience and basically got into a pissing contest with a bigger stronger fighter.

he neglected to use his qualitys, which is his fault but the point I'm making is that you haven't seen the full picture...

He brawled against a very strong 12 stone fighter who was there to hold and spoil and as has been said try and land a 'money shot'

Meaning bika came to fight. Calzaghe was meant to blow bika away, what a shame no one told bika ay

[Memphis]

This was hardly a surprise was it? Considering all that went on around this fight and what went on before it (lacy) this had anti climax written all over it. I suppose Joe's there to be shot at now and thats the way it goes. He got it totally wrong from the start and never really got it back on track exept for maybe a small period in the middle of the fight. Calzaghe totally fought to the level of his opponant and considring the type of opponant Bika is and the tactics he employs this really wasnt the wisest of moves. For what its worth I thought Bika was a little hard done by. Calzaghe was at fault for the cut IMO but Bika's reputation went before him and any head work was automatically judged to be his doing.

Calzaghe made hard work of an average opponant but it really was no surprise. Snakey I dont think anyone expected Bika to get blown away. Like Calzaghe, you are getting carried away

[Snakey]

This was hardly a surprise was it? Considering all that went on around this fight and what went on before it (lacy) this had anti climax written all over it. I suppose Joe's there to be shot at now and thats the way it goes. He got it totally wrong from the start and never really got it back on track exept for maybe a small period in the middle of the fight. Calzaghe totally fought to the level of his opponant and considring the type of opponant Bika is and the tactics he employs this really wasnt the wisest of moves. For what its worth I thought Bika was a little hard done by. Calzaghe was at fault for the cut IMO but Bika's reputation went before him and any head work was automatically judged to be his doing.

Calzaghe made hard work of an average opponant but it really was no surprise. Snakey I dont think anyone expected Bika to get blown away. Like Calzaghe, you are getting carried away

No what i mean is, after calzaghe became the second coming after beating lacy, bika was supposed to be easy work for such a great champion. All i mean is for a guy who was supposed to get beat badly, bika apparently didnt do too bad.

[AdamGB]

I agree Mickey Vann is a crap official full stop... and if you ask me he is in the pocket.

Not that haters or Skeptics will listen but this is what it comes down too...

Calzaghe boxed a stupid fight to impress an HBO audience and basically got into a pissing contest with a bigger stronger fighter.

he neglected to use his qualitys, which is his fault but the point I'm making is that you haven't seen the full picture...

He brawled against a very strong 12 stone fighter who was there to hold and spoil and as has been said try and land a 'money shot'

Meaning bika came to fight. Calzaghe was meant to blow bika away, what a shame no one told bika ay

Calzaghe came to fight Lacy, I don't remember him leading with his head or clinching every five seconds... I didn't say he shouldn't of fought hard... just that it is very hard to box well against a tough guy who can do that.

If we are simply talking about brawling, Calzaghe got the better of it and that's why he won.

The only people who really knocked Bika where skeptics and brit haters who wanted Joe to sit on his welsh arse waiting for a super fight... anything for them to whinge at.
I expect calzaghe to UD him... but, like I said... he is very strong, in the top 10, rated off his credentials... not hype like a certain other JC opponent, who could argue that he should have gotten Beyers belt and motivated to steel all that JC has

It's the old Cliche: Styles make fights... and so do stupid people trying to impress HBO :P

[Kev]

This was hardly a surprise was it? Considering all that went on around this fight and what went on before it (lacy) this had anti climax written all over it. I suppose Joe's there to be shot at now and thats the way it goes. He got it totally wrong from the start and never really got it back on track exept for maybe a small period in the middle of the fight. Calzaghe totally fought to the level of his opponant and considring the type of opponant Bika is and the tactics he employs this really wasnt the wisest of moves. For what its worth I thought Bika was a little hard done by. Calzaghe was at fault for the cut IMO but Bika's reputation went before him and any head work was automatically judged to be his doing.

Calzaghe made hard work of an average opponant but it really was no surprise. Snakey I dont think anyone expected Bika to get blown away. Like Calzaghe, you are getting carried away

No what i mean is, after calzaghe became the second coming after beating lacy, bika was supposed to be easy work for such a great champion. All i mean is for a guy who was supposed to get beat badly, bika apparently didnt do too bad.

Don't worry Snakey us British fans will merely respond by elavating Bika to being one of the very best 169 lbers out there, almost as good a fighter in his division as Collzao is amongst the welterweights

By the way did you see Calzaghe's face after the Maccarinelli fight? Man he looked how Arthur Abraham would have looked if his fight with Miranda would have gone 15 rounds!

[Memphis]

Bilbo you are talking out of your arse. Bika is big and strong and ordinary to boot. You elevate Bika however you see fit but leave the rest of us out of it. I can only assume you are all "smarted" out with the Evolution debate becasue you sound like an idiot right now.

[Kev]

Bilbo you are talking out of your a***. Bika is big and strong and ordinary to boot. You elevate Bika however you see fit but leave the rest of us out of it. I can only assume you are all "smarted" out with the Evolution debate becasue you sound like an idiot right now.

Haha I was being sarcastic you idiot.

I think Calzaghe looked S*** tonight, I was just saying that people will now start saying Bika is a great fighter like they did with Collazo.


Lets start with McGuigan and Duke McKenzie 'Kessler will not want to have anything to do with Bika'. Erm yeah right, I'm sure he's terrified :P

[Tito BHB]

what ya'll brits think of macs performance??
i thought he did pretty well.. nice little bit on the record to be fair...
doesnt do justice to hobson hes a good honest solid fighter who gives as good as he get like in the last fight...
but props to enzo he caught him good whether he meant to or not.. might have been a bit of an early stop but nevermind,
i think haye could hang with enzo mac pretty well to be honest prob beat him i say david gets his eliminator out the way...
fights bell
im not sure if he wins or not but if he wins a big fight in britain unify three titles....
if he looses fight for enzo's crown maybe?
peace

[Memphis]

That was strange to watch. Hobsons body totally betrayed him, he had his mind but his body wouldnt repond. I like Enzo but Im not sure about him in with top cruisers. Haye and Enzo is 50/50 whoever lands big forst for me.

I dont see them ever fighting though, Haye is in a rush to get to heavy.

[superheavyrhun]

Bilbo you are talking out of your a***. Bika is big and strong and ordinary to boot. You elevate Bika however you see fit but leave the rest of us out of it. I can only assume you are all "smarted" out with the Evolution debate becasue you sound like an idiot right now.

Haha I was being sarcastic you idiot.

I think Calzaghe looked S*** tonight, I was just saying that people will now start saying Bika is a great fighter like they did with Collazo.


Lets start with McGuigan and Duke McKenzie 'Kessler will not want to have anything to do with Bika'. Erm yeah right, I'm sure he's terrified :P

You see bilbo, this is why they trained the monkey that sits on my shoulder. Every time I crack a joke he gives me a drum roll, and every time I say something sarcastic, he holds up a sign saying "sarcasm". You should get one, they really claer things up, or at least there should be a smiley involving a dancing monkey with a drumkit and signs. As for Calzo, I seem to be blind in one eye in thinking that he beat Bika at his own game, instead of focussing on his own specialty. I'm not worried...I can be like Calzaghe's "Royal". Calzaghe ist der God of boxing and will poo on all English-world boxerfighters from great height with great fartforce.