Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

[brocktonblockbust]

I don't have any problem with the definition of racism. If that is all you are saying then I am all for it, yes indeed the definition of racism is if you don't like an entire ethnicity of people simply because of their ethnicity and nothing else.

@Gandalf is correct that racism by this definition is a very natural and I think genetically built in quality for all human beings and try as hard as they want to be an idealogue they will not be able to shake it. It is quite normal and natural and all the social justice nonsense can work on this for a million years and not make any Headway at all. It's amazing how people think racism is so bad when in fact it is quite normal and natural and there's nothing that anyone can do about it

[TitoFan]

I don't have any problem with the definition of racism. If that is all you are saying then I am all for it, yes indeed the definition of racism is if you don't like an entire ethnicity of people simply because of their ethnicity and nothing else.

@Gandalf is correct that racism by this definition is a very natural and I think genetically built in quality for all human beings and try as hard as they want to be an idealogue they will not be able to shake it. It is quite normal and natural and all the social justice nonsense can work on this for a million years and not make any Headway at all. It's amazing how people think racism is so bad when in fact it is quite normal and natural and there's nothing that anyone can do about it

Well that's where we'll disagree. Just because I'm not condemning Gandhi for being racist, doesn't mean I think it is a good trait. All I said is people in those days tended toward being racist a bit more than now, when supposedly we're "wiser" about other cultures and races around the world. I may be common... but I don't consider it normal nor positive. But you're right. Racists will always be racists and there's little anyone can do about it. Hopefully though, as people become more educated in general.... and people travel more and see more of different races and cultures..... some of this ignorance will subside. Yes, because IMO racism denotes ignorance, as I said before.

[brocktonblockbust]

]yes I would say that racism also Denotes ignorance because it is just simply numerically impossible for every single member of a certain ethnicity to not be liked by somebody for another reason apart from their ethnicity. Even if 65% of every Hunan Chinese villager was an obnoxious nose-picking spitting and blowing snot in public near you that would still not be enough of a percentage for you to say that you detest and despise Hunan Chinese villagers. Because what about the other 35%? You can't just write them off because of the 65% that you experienced firsthand. So I agree that to write off that 35% would be ignorant and by the definition of the word ignorant it means precisely that you are not knowing about something or that knowledge is not possessed about something. So yes that would be ignorant to write off 100% of every Hunan Chinese villager and that would be racist.

On the other hand I don't mind a bit of fudging the figures because if 65% of a population of people were really despicable and vile to you I think you would have every right to say that you hate all of them. And I would not necessarily find that to be racist because 65% of a certain population is a gigantic proportion and I personally believe quite well enough of a sample to be able to deduce that the majority of these people are obnoxious and vile and unhygienic cretins.

I'm not saying it's a good thing or bad thing

@TitoFan

[Beanz]

So Freedom is an SJW now then? His thread.

And no ..Racism is not only banned for good reason on the forum, it's not normal or natural, it is learned behaviour. Passed down prejudice from ignorant parents or peers. Basic stuff. Kids don't give a shit what race other kids are until they are brainwashed by old people with a chip on their shoulder or genuine grudge.

[brocktonblockbust]

I disagree I think it is quite normal and natural although it is also true it can be learned. But take a look at all those double-blind experiments they did with the Aborigines kids that they took and brought over to Belgium and then took the Belgian kids and brought them over there to Papua New Guinea and that double blind experiment from 1967. that wasn't learned that was straight out first time ever experiencing it and the results were not surprising at all really. the kids had a strong aversion to the kids who did not look anything like them at all. It is quite natural indeed

[walrus]

So Freedom is an SJW now then? His thread.

And no ..Racism is not only banned for good reason on the forum, it's not normal or natural, it is learned behaviour. Passed down prejudice from ignorant parents or peers. Basic stuff. Kids don't give a shit what race other kids are until they are brainwashed by old people with a chip on their shoulder or genuine grudge.

Breaking, racist babies on the rise

Could babies start showing racist traits before they mumble their first word?

That’s the finding of two new studies out of the University of Toronto, published recently in the journal Child Development.

The first study had infants listen to either happy or sad music, and then look at pictures of adult faces. Infants between 6 and 9 months looked at faces of their own race for longer after listening to happy music, and faces of other races for longer after listening to sad music. It’s not clear why the infants made these associations.

In the second study, infants between 6 and 8 months watched videos of a woman looking at a corner of the TV screen. In some videos, the woman is gazing at an animal; in others, the animal appears in a different corner of the screen. The infants were more likely to follow the adult’s line of sight if she was of their own race, indicating that infants are more likely to learn from adults of their own race than adults of other races.

These aren’t the first studies to find that young children can show racial biases — a 2014 study found that 15-month-olds show preference to adults of their own race, the Daily Mail reported — but these findings indicate these biases begin earlier than previously thought as well as offer new reasoning behind the tendencies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....ence-says/amp/

[Dia bando]

Remember to look after ones own is natural nothing wrong with that.!
Trouble is people is over analysis things and then after the outcome pick what suits.!

[Beanz]

It is an understandable set of conclusions to reach, but if you are doing so in order to justify the idea that being racist is natural, you are mistaken. Implicit Bias is not Racism. This is why Psychologists are usually white grey haired old cunts who need a kick up the arse. They are on the most part, actually mental and rather than deal with that they project the idea that the whole world must be...and they are going to fix them. The same thing happens with people who say things like "Not All" or those who want to pretend that it's OK to justify racism as entirely natural. Projection.If you are uncomfortable with your own natural implicit bias you are not going to deal with that problem very efficiently by running away from it. You have to acknowledge it.

The most uncomfortable truth to first comprehend is that there is no such thing as race. Racism is real but the idea of Race is a social construct. You cannot avoid the science it shouts it at us but we are so conditioned by the idea it exists we live are lives as though it is real. We do this with many things though and it is how we make sense of the world. Visible differences in skin colour are accidents of history. Genetic mixture and displacement are what makes us Human Beings. There is no convenient cutlery draw of borders in which the forks stay here and the spoons go in this divide and the knives here, never to ever touch. 8000 years ago Europe was full of brown skinned people. You can have sub-species of Chimps but not humans, there is no biological criteria filled which can even make race a meaningful category.

It is all Samuel Morton's fault the racist twat.