Who do you think won GGG/Canelo 2?

[armin]

Ggg all night but his name isn't john Smith si he didn't get it

[armin]

just googled round by round scorecards and first page of results it was all golo victory or draw so yeah don't see how you give that to alvarez, if he was german and his name was schweinsteigerstein or some shit like that and the fight took place in germany hbo would have been crying robbery but alas it is their cash cow

[armin]

[armin]

yeah I am going with golovkin got robbed

[Gandalf]

Were they evenly matched over 24 rounds though. Granted the chins are both granite, but GGG appeared to win in two different ways according to most observers. Now if it was split 50/50 as to who people think won then fine, it was close, but that hasn't been the case. Every poll has GGG winning both fights. Yet somehow these judges are unable to see it. This suggests that boxing has something seriously wrong with it.

I can see how some rounds are close based on what you are looking at/for, but when GGG is unable to ever get the nod. Ever. It suggests that judging is no different to fake news. Everyone knows what they saw.

[sanatogen]

Golden boy production, golden boy fighter in golden boy city.....

With those three factors in mind, shouldn't Golovkin have been going for the knockout just to be sure?

[Master]

I had GGG winning 9-3, the rounds were close but the jab was point scoring and damaging. I think GGG was thinking he was outpointing Canelo and just did what he needed to do to win the round. You can not blame GGG for doing what he did which was land the point scoring punches and rounds in the bag.

Whilst the margin was wide for me the rounds were close. If this was a tennis match GGG won 3 sets to nil but all the sets were 7-6.

[tomcy03]

Were they evenly matched over 24 rounds though. Granted the chins are both granite, but GGG appeared to win in two different ways according to most observers. Now if it was split 50/50 as to who people think won then fine, it was close, but that hasn't been the case. Every poll has GGG winning both fights. Yet somehow these judges are unable to see it. This suggests that boxing has something seriously wrong with it.

I can see how some rounds are close based on what you are looking at/for, but when GGG is unable to ever get the nod. Ever. It suggests that judging is no different to fake news. Everyone knows what they saw.

I suppose what I was trying to get across was how much closer Canelo was to GGG over 24 rounds than every other one of GGGs opponents, with the obvious exception of Jacobs. For me GGG did enough over both fights to be two nill in the series, 0-1-1 is a bad joke really. I personally preferred the volume unless trumped by more significant strikes and gave it to GGG 116-112. I liked that Canelo held his ground more this time around but it still wasn't enough to win/nick close rounds in my opinion.

The fact that there wasn't an Adalaide Byrd style scorecard last night with help some legitimise the overall scoring, however giving Canelo the last round and therefore the win even though more subtle was the standout issue for me with the scoring this time around. Will we ever trust Goldenboy and whoever their home fighter is, for me no. If they do it again will the same think happen, almost certainly.

[tomcy03]

[TitoFan]

I was looking for something like this all last night. Thanks for sharing.


What can I say. It was closer than the first fight, which they inexplicably called a draw, so of course they gave it to Canelo.

I've looked back at some scorecards by Dave Moretti on Canelo fights and, although not as corrupt/inept as a CJ Ross or Adelaide Byrd, with Moretti scoring you practically have to kill Canelo to get him to score the other way.


Not in the robbery category maybe, but definitely the wrong decision as evidenced by the almost unanimous consensus by the boxing experts.

Bottom line: Canelo fans thought Canelo won. Boxing fans know GGG won.

[Addicted to_boxing]

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I was looking for something like this all last night. Thanks for sharing.


What can I say. It was closer than the first fight, which they inexplicably called a draw, so of course they gave it to Canelo.

I've looked back at some scorecards by Dave Moretti on Canelo fights and, although not as corrupt/inept as a CJ Ross or Adelaide Byrd, with Moretti scoring you practically have to kill Canelo to get him to score the other way.


Not in the robbery category maybe, but definitely the wrong decision as evidenced by the almost unanimous consensus by the boxing experts.

Bottom line: Canelo fans thought Canelo won. Boxing fans know GGG won.

Now provide a list with 25 successful boxers and they all say Canelo won. My car needs work and I need advice do I ask a mechanic or a publication / media person?

[TitoFan]

Well, the poll's closed and we can see the final results.

The totals say 26-GGG, 9-Canelo, 4-Draw. But Hulk and Dia said GGG and didn't vote. Armin and Walrus said GGG but mistakenly voted Canelo.

Fix those oversights and the totals become 30-7-4.

GGG wins the polling by a landslide of 73.2%.

[TitoFan]

Now provide a list with 25 successful boxers and they all say Canelo won. My car needs work and I need advice do I ask a mechanic or a publication / media person?

Didn't find 25... you'll have to settle for 4. Terrence Crawford, Carl Frampton, Audley Harrison all Tweeted they thought GGG won. Amir Khan was the lone Canelo man. Sample size is small, but that damn 75% edge just won't go away.

BTW, your car analogy seriously lacks reality. You really think Teddy Atlas is unfit to give an accurate opinion of the fight? Sure, Teddy boxed a bit, but he's by no means a "successful boxer".

[Gandalf]

Nice Work, Tito. The truth wills out in the end. Like with Pac Marquez.

[palmerq]

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I was looking for something like this all last night. Thanks for sharing.


What can I say. It was closer than the first fight, which they inexplicably called a draw, so of course they gave it to Canelo.

I've looked back at some scorecards by Dave Moretti on Canelo fights and, although not as corrupt/inept as a CJ Ross or Adelaide Byrd, with Moretti scoring you practically have to kill Canelo to get him to score the other way.


Not in the robbery category maybe, but definitely the wrong decision as evidenced by the almost unanimous consensus by the boxing experts.

Bottom line: Canelo fans thought Canelo won. Boxing fans know GGG won.

Now provide a list with 25 successful boxers and they all say Canelo won. My car needs work and I need advice do I ask a mechanic or a publication / media person?

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ge..._(2nd_meeting)

Under unofficial results here... You point out something interesting, most media go with golovkin or draw and more fighters seem to think alvarez won..