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    I’m implicit bias is a psych term. It happens and the subconscious level and may differ from our declared beliefs

    Implicit Biases Predict Behavior in the Real World

    Extensive research has documented the disturbing effects of implicit racial biases in a variety of realms ranging from classrooms to courtrooms to hospitals. Consider these examples:

    A 2012 study used identical case vignettes to examine how pediatricians’ implicit racial attitudes affect treatment recommendations for four common pediatric conditions. Results indicated that as pediatricians’ pro-White implicit biases increased, they were more likely to prescribe painkillers for vignette patients who were White as opposed to Black. This is just one example of how understanding implicit racial biases may help explain differential health care treatment, even for youths.
    Other research explored the connection between criminal sentencing and Afrocentric features bias, which refers to the generally negative judgments and beliefs that many people hold regarding individuals who possess Afrocentric features such as dark skin, a wide nose, and full lips. Researchers found that when controlling for numerous factors (e.g., seriousness of the primary offense, number of prior offenses, etc.), individuals with the most prominent Afrocentric features received longer sentences than their less Afrocentrically featured counterparts.
    This phenomenon was observed intraracially in both their Black and White male inmate samples.
    Barriers to Opportunity: Implicit Bias & Structural Racialization

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    Ahh..... a study on "racist babies". I was wondering when someone was going to spend money on this incredibly, vastly needed study. I'd rank that right up there with the life-altering study that came out in 2005, a description of which I was able to find, and share below:


    "Effects of Backwards Speech and Speaker Variability in Language Discrimination by Rats, a study from the Journal of Experimental Psychology in 2005, found that rats were not always able to tell the difference between recordings of Japanese and Dutch being spoken backwards. Apparently they were trying to find a link between infant humans and other mammals rather than discover that rats don’t understand human languages when they are reversed."



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    it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
    Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

    They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

    In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

    Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
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    Beanz you Indo-Chinese Altaic Eskimo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
    Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

    They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

    In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

    Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
    Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
    Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

    They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

    In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

    Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
    Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.


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    It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
    Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

    They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

    In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

    Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
    You do need a shrink though.

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    That does sound a bit rude, but I mean that in the nicest way possible. If those MRI's are not working you need to try something else.

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    Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?
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