Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

[walrus]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.

Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.

[Beanz]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.

Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.

Check out the Psychology thread

[brocktonblockbust]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

[Master]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

Never judge a book by it's cover

[brocktonblockbust]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

Never judge a book by it's cover

bwaaaaHAHAHA yes good one 😀

[Beanz]

It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan

uh..well that is kind of the point. Racism is a very superficial prejudice mainly based on the fact that someone does not look like you based on some vague idea that that means they were born somewhere, will act someway, will think someway etc

I am not saying that groups of people can not share differences but to attribute race based generalities etc is actually denying that.

[Gandalf]

If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.

[brocktonblockbust]

Race exists and there are differences between the races physically mentally intellectually Etc

And I don't know why we're not allowed to like whatever those attributes are and why we have to be labeled a word called racism

[TitoFan]

Such a HANGUP over the word "racism", for crying out loud.

Brock, saying you don't like black people's kinky hair is not racist.

Saying you don't like black people period because they're inferior to you IS racist.

WTH is so hard to understand about that?

Being racist is not the end of the world. It just denotes ignorance and unwarranted hate toward a group of people.



BTW, I also believe races exist. I don't understand the opposite argument. Races exist, ethnic backgrounds exist. But as humans mix more and more, differences will become blurred over time. Eventually that will probably be the only way to get rid of racism altogether...... when we're all so mixed up it'll just be one big pot of brownish, wavy-haired, lookalikes.

[Beanz]

If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.

Because it's a convenient way of supporting white privilege across the world. I jest but it really is convenience, it's a fuzzy way of dealing with things and that is how the world works. Seriously it's sounds mental, but the reality is the genetic distances found within a 'Race' are larger than the mean genetic distances between races.






It is quite clearly explained here


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/m...cience-africa/

[El Kabong]

Guys, race itself is a social construct....it's why literally ANYONE can give literally ANYONE ELSE a blood transfusion, an organ and/or bone marrow transplant....THEY want you to think race is a thing, but it's soooo not, neither is blood type or whatever matching human leukocyte antigen's is for pussies you just pay no mind to the social constructs and you fucking do it like a champ.


@TitoFan some cultures value education, some don't. Some cultures believe that their success honors their family and their shame shames the family and other cultures don't. Not all cultures are equal.