US needs to beef up its Air Force. Thoughts?

[walrus]

BEIJING, Friday, July 15 - China should use nuclear weapons against the United States if the American military intervenes in any conflict over Taiwan, a senior Chinese military official said Thursday.

"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons," the official, Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu, said at an official briefing.

General Zhu, considered a hawk, stressed that his comments reflected his personal views and not official policy. Beijing has long insisted that it will not initiate the use of nuclear weapons in any conflict.


This is an old article from the NYT but it shows some hawks

[brocktonblockbust]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

[TitoFan]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

[Gandalf]

Yes, that is factual, Beanz. Starving Jews did unfortunately have to eat the dead and the leather from their belts. Not very nice. Thought you would have known all this.

I believe in self defence, but not acts of aggression. Every nation has the right to defend itself.

[brocktonblockbust]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

Next week it'll be "this is about the third time I remember ever agreeing with you on something....."

Tito, time will show it 😨😨😨

[walrus]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

It’s more geopolitical. We’ve backed Taiwan ever since China fell to Mao. Diplomatically we still “honor” the one China policy but have pushed for Taiwan being autonomous but its a major issue in china. Especially now with China taking over the South China Sea I guess they look at it as a good strategic ally. I don’t know a lot on the subject, I say let Taiwan vote, I do think some of them desire unification with China but only if it could be similar to Hong Kong. They have been an ally and counter balance for 60 years.

[TitoFan]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

It’s more geopolitical. We’ve backed Taiwan ever since China fell to Mao. Diplomatically we still “honor” the one China policy but have pushed for Taiwan being autonomous but its a major issue in china. Especially now with China taking over the South China Sea I guess they look at it as a good strategic ally. I don’t know a lot on the subject, I say let Taiwan vote, I do think some of them desire unification with China but only if it could be similar to Hong Kong. They have been an ally and counter balance for 60 years.

I still don't see the point. It's not like the U.S. needs to fear a trade war with Taiwan..... or military prowess from Taiwan..... or any kind of threat from Taiwan. I would think in the global arena you pick your friends and enemies. Why piss off China over such a relatively insignificant issue as Taiwan? It's confounding is what it is.

[Gandalf]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

It’s more geopolitical. We’ve backed Taiwan ever since China fell to Mao. Diplomatically we still “honor” the one China policy but have pushed for Taiwan being autonomous but its a major issue in china. Especially now with China taking over the South China Sea I guess they look at it as a good strategic ally. I don’t know a lot on the subject, I say let Taiwan vote, I do think some of them desire unification with China but only if it could be similar to Hong Kong. They have been an ally and counter balance for 60 years.

I still don't see the point. It's not like the U.S. needs to fear a trade war with Taiwan..... or military prowess from Taiwan..... or any kind of threat from Taiwan. I would think in the global arena you pick your friends and enemies. Why piss off China over such a relatively insignificant issue as Taiwan? It's confounding is what it is.

On this issue the US is in the moral right. It's a strange one because on others they are in the moral wrong. What bothers me about politics is the lack of consistency. It's almost like a playground and it is scary that this kind of mentality appears to be how the world is governed. Hong Kong is of course very unhappy with how things have developed since ceding from the UK.

[walrus]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

It’s more geopolitical. We’ve backed Taiwan ever since China fell to Mao. Diplomatically we still “honor” the one China policy but have pushed for Taiwan being autonomous but its a major issue in china. Especially now with China taking over the South China Sea I guess they look at it as a good strategic ally. I don’t know a lot on the subject, I say let Taiwan vote, I do think some of them desire unification with China but only if it could be similar to Hong Kong. They have been an ally and counter balance for 60 years.

I still don't see the point. It's not like the U.S. needs to fear a trade war with Taiwan..... or military prowess from Taiwan..... or any kind of threat from Taiwan. I would think in the global arena you pick your friends and enemies. Why piss off China over such a relatively insignificant issue as Taiwan? It's confounding is what it is.

it’s an interesting subject I never knew how important it was until I went to China and saw the Chinese news media playing it up constantly.

[TitoFan]

With a country like the U.S., where economic and national security interests drive almost every international action and posture, you have to constantly play the game of "What do we have to win..... and what do we have to lose." In the case of Taiwan, I fail to see where continuing to irk China over Taiwan serves any of the U.S.'s interests. Are there vast amounts of oil hidden deep below the Taiwanese island that only the U.S. government knows about? If it's strictly noble and humanitarian, then yeah...... I agree with the confounding lack of consistency. But then again I'm no expert on foreign relations. I just feel there must be something more here than meets the eye.

[brocktonblockbust]

China is correct. What the hell business is it of the United States to get involved with Taiwan

This is about the 2nd time I remember ever agreeing with you on something. Careful..... don't want to start a trend here.

It’s more geopolitical. We’ve backed Taiwan ever since China fell to Mao. Diplomatically we still “honor” the one China policy but have pushed for Taiwan being autonomous but its a major issue in china. Especially now with China taking over the South China Sea I guess they look at it as a good strategic ally. I don’t know a lot on the subject, I say let Taiwan vote, I do think some of them desire unification with China but only if it could be similar to Hong Kong. They have been an ally and counter balance for 60 years.

I still don't see the point. It's not like the U.S. needs to fear a trade war with Taiwan..... or military prowess from Taiwan..... or any kind of threat from Taiwan. I would think in the global arena you pick your friends and enemies. Why piss off China over such a relatively insignificant issue as Taiwan? It's confounding is what it is.

it’s an interesting subject I never knew how important it was until I married a Chinese

it's amazing how some people don't see how important things are until it becomes personal