Quote Originally Posted by Syntax Error
The problem with Joe is that he doesn't like to be told what to do.

If you point out the obvious to him, he'll go & do something else entirely.
Yeah, certainly last night that was the case. His dad was going mental at him in the corner, but then again....who really listens to their dad that often. When my dad used to go mad at me, I'd switch off and stand there waiting for him to calm down. He just wanted a tear-up in there, and he got it in spades.
You heard his dad in the corner go:
"Everything I've told ou so far, you've just gone and done exactly the opposite, you have to box this guy".