Top 5 Saddoboxing Truces

[walrus]

Did u ever notice u guys who don’t believe talk about religion much more than I or anyone here who does believe? I always wonder why that is.

[Gandalf]

Did u ever notice u guys who don’t believe talk about religion much more than I or anyone here who does believe? I always wonder why that is.

I am interested in the life of human beings who lived their lives and I have no doubt that Jesus existed. I find it interesting when people are willing to die for what they believe in. I also think a lot of his values were decent ones. It also makes it even more curious when generations later the story becomes mythologized and people internalize it as a guide to life by absorbing the supernatural over what in reality was a little bit different. Jesus was taking on the Temple and the Roman Empire, he was a revolutionary. That's something that gets played down a lot and I find that very interesting.

As you can tell I am not mocking Jesus at all, I think the message was an interesting one. Resist occupation and help those around you. However, it is also a very dangerous message. He was a man of 2000 years ago and likely thought his God, his Jewish old Testament God, would intercede and do something dramatic, but he did nothing of the sort. If only Jesus had a copy of The God Delusion and rifle technology. It could have been different.

It's a great story.

[walrus]

Ya it’s interesting I just don’t spend a lot of time speaking on it here. I believe but I’m not out to convert anyone, it’s not my thing. Do as u wish I just find it strange when the anti religious spend so much time talking about religion

[Gandalf]

Ya it’s interesting I just don’t spend a lot of time speaking on it here. I believe but I’m not out to convert anyone, it’s not my thing. Do as u wish I just find it strange when the anti religious spend so much time talking about religion

My reading lately has been about the life of Jesus as it appears to have been and that is before Christianity even existed. Jesus wasn't even a Christian. He was a Jew fighting for his country and appeared to be telling people to share rather than bow down to a system of taxation and occupation. If people really took that message to heart then we would be living in a different kind of world. The money lenders have won. The Temples have one. Occupation has won. People bought into magic, rather than the real message. It's just interesting, that's all. It has nothing to do with God for me. God is religion, I personally don't think Jesus was about God, but that is because I see him as a human and nothing more, though he likely saw it differently due his times and indoctrination.

[Gandalf]

And again that is no slur on Jesus. You know that the earth is one of many planets that go around the sun, Jesus had no knowledge beyond his local environment and what he either heard or read and the book shops were not as good as today. Amazon was not around then and Jesus would have been angry about them actually too.

[walrus]

Well good on u. I, in the past talked with this guy who would always want to discuss how he didn’t believe and argue religion with me. I was like what do we do just keep going to and fro saying yes he does exist, no he doesn’t exist. Seems a bit pointless. Your point of view is fine. Lots of people don’t believe in anything. I just don’t talk about it here as that’s what it amounts to, no he does, yes he doesn’t. I don’t need to prove anything, we are all going to find out someday anyway.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, so what at the end of the day. You believe and I don't. It's one of those "So what?" things. Next topic. Nobody needs to be upset. At least Christians appear able to take it that way better than some other less enlightened groups.

[walrus]

Yeah, so what at the end of the day. You believe and I don't. It's one of those "So what?" things. Next topic. Nobody needs to be upset. At least Christians appear able to take it that way better than some other less enlightened groups.

That sums it up miles. You won’t convince me and I won’t u. I will ask if u don’t mind, when you were going through your terrible medical issues did u even once call out to god? The most staunch atheists in my platoon would plead to god when the shit hit the fan. Afterwords they were back to god bashing, I always find it funny. Funny only in the ironic way not funny someone is suffering

[walrus]

Sorry, I meant no he doesn’t, yes he does, as in exist.