Billy Joe Saunders has failed a VADA test

[Master]

My feeling is that maybe it should be up to the Opponent? As bad as training for a fight only to have it cancelled last minute may be, having a full camp only to have it cancelled within a week or something really can’t be much worse...

Problem with it being left up to the opponent is it wouldn’t necessarily be the opponent deciding. Some guy in a lower position may not want to fight a guy on PEDs but his promoter tells him to do it. Or he may do it out of need rather than safety. Either is very bad.

Yeah that’s a good point. Far as I know, there is no recourse for Andrade, or anyone in a position like his, to get anything out of this though? The opportunity cost is just immense. If I were him I’d rather fight a guy who took something than miss out on what may be the biggest chance and/or payday he ever gets, especially if he’s confident in winning.

Easiest thing is to for the drug cheat to be sued for loss of earning and have to pay compensation to his opponent.

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My feeling is that maybe it should be up to the Opponent? As bad as training for a fight only to have it cancelled last minute may be, having a full camp only to have it cancelled within a week or something really can’t be much worse...

Problem with it being left up to the opponent is it wouldn’t necessarily be the opponent deciding. Some guy in a lower position may not want to fight a guy on PEDs but his promoter tells him to do it. Or he may do it out of need rather than safety. Either is very bad.

Yeah that’s a good point. Far as I know, there is no recourse for Andrade, or anyone in a position like his, to get anything out of this though? The opportunity cost is just immense. If I were him I’d rather fight a guy who took something than miss out on what may be the biggest chance and/or payday he ever gets, especially if he’s confident in winning.

Easiest thing is to for the drug cheat to be sued for loss of earning and have to pay compensation to his opponent.

Yeah but you don’t really hear about that happening, I’ve thought about this as well. It seems like it should be about as cut and dry as a civil case could possibly be, yet the guy who doesn’t cheat basically seems to miss out on all of the income and opportunity they were about to get. Andrade is a very good fighter who hasn’t achieved much for whatever reason, this was likely the fight of his life. In hoping the guy who cheated gets banned, people often overlook what the consequences for their opponent is. No good answer, and it’s why anyone found to be knowingly cheating in a combat sport can’t be punished enough for me.

[Alpha]

Sounds like Kautondokwo's on standby, if the commission doesn't allow Saunders to fight and the title is vacated.

Andrade will fight on that date no matter the outcome.

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Sounds like Kautondokwo's on standby, if the commission doesn't allow Saunders to fight and the title is vacated.

Andrade will fight on that date no matter the outcome.

Any idea what kind of money he’d make if that happens instead, as opposed to what he would have? i honestly don’t know who this katawando guy even is, he worthy

[Alpha]

Sounds like Kautondokwo's on standby, if the commission doesn't allow Saunders to fight and the title is vacated.

Andrade will fight on that date no matter the outcome.

Any idea what kind of money he’d make if that happens instead, as opposed to what he would have? i honestly don’t know who this katawando guy even is, he worthy

No idea sorry, just read something from Hearn saying Andrade is still fighting on that date, either for a vacant title or in a non title fight.

[palmerq]

Andrade is in the crowd at bellator 206 and being interviewed, sounds like the fight v Saunders is still going ahead.

[Dia bando]

BJS good boxer in a few weeks a fine of one hundred thousand pounds,! two he failed a drug test Karma or what.