Most evil person in history

[Freedom]

Wasn't Jesus the original Marxist?

VERY different.

Christ preached love, forgiveness and tolerance.

Marx encouraged class hatred and violent revolution.

[Gandalf]

My reading of Jesus is that he was a bit more radical than that whence the money lenders episode, arming his disciples, and denouncing empire and the Temple. He wanted to overthrow that system and create his Kingdom on Earth and become a peasant socialist king. It's just that God did not show up at the party.

I'm not against those values at all really, but to enforce it you would need violence and an angry God and the God of Jesus was of course the God of the time and not the God created decades after the death of Jesus along with all the other stuff. It's just that God was of course never there and so he was killed as a seditionist.

Christianity has been a rather bloody affair if we are being honest. Blair is of course a Catholic. Being against abortion is a horrible and cruel thing too. The most helpless brainwashed into having kids they cannot afford. That's pretty evil.

As the immortal Brock would say: 'The world is a Gulag'.

[brocktonblockbust]

Starting with the Pharaohs and then after that the Emperors of Rome it was just total mind control and The Matrix was established.

The Council of Nicea was the first International mind control experiment.

they were over 30 different gospels at that time and the council had to take a vote over a 90-day. In Nicea in Anatolia in about the year 330 ad

The pope and the Bishops and the Cardinals drove people out for fear of death who did not want to go along with the streamlining of the process. They eventually censored 26 gospels and kept four gospels Matthew Mark Luke and John which most closely matched. Yet even those four are wildly different on many points.

then of course in 1930 they found the 35 or so Gnostic Gospels in nag hammadi Egypt, which completely blows the doors off of Christianity forever I mean at least with those who have a brain

Haha what a charade yet people swallow it

[El Kabong]

Wasn't Jesus the original Marxist?

VERY different.

Christ preached love, forgiveness and tolerance.

Marx encouraged class hatred and violent revolution.

Giving to those in need of your own free will is what Jesus preached. He didn't have government enforcement.

[Freedom]

Some who were evil but not as well known include:

Elizabeth Báthory, most prolific female serial killer of all time, who tried to stay young by bathing in the blood of little girls

Mass murderer Lazar Kaganovich, architect of the holodomor

Genrikh Yagoda, head of the Soviet NKVD in the 1930s

[Gandalf]

Wasn't Jesus the original Marxist?

VERY different.

Christ preached love, forgiveness and tolerance.

Marx encouraged class hatred and violent revolution.

Giving to those in need of your own free will is what Jesus preached. He didn't have government enforcement.

He claimed that there would come a time when the rich would be stripped of everything and the poor would have something. He just never got the chance to show how he would make that happen. We do know how that works in a world where revolution is successful though.

That's the dichotomy of the contemporary American Christian for me. They vote right wing and donate to churches, but it seems the complete opposite of what Jesus would have done.

[Gandalf]

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus - Those sound like the words of a revolutionary.

Then later his brother James seemingly says the following in one of his final sermons. James was known to have spread the word closest to that of Jesus being his brother and lead disciple: "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. .." - James

Again, these words sound more like something you would hear from a Chavez or a Castro.

[walrus]

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus - Those sound like the words of a revolutionary.

Then later his brother James seemingly says the following in one of his final sermons. James was known to have spread the word closest to that of Jesus being his brother and lead disciple: "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. .." - James

Again, these words sound more like something you would hear from a Chavez or a Castro.

Ha I like when people who don’t even follow Christianity pick a couple verses and use them to make a point. People spend a lifetime studying these vereses, miles is now a biblical expert. Why quote someone you don’t beleive?

[p4pking]

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus - Those sound like the words of a revolutionary.

Then later his brother James seemingly says the following in one of his final sermons. James was known to have spread the word closest to that of Jesus being his brother and lead disciple: "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. .." - James

Again, these words sound more like something you would hear from a Chavez or a Castro.

Ha I like when people who don’t even follow Christianity pick a couple verses and use them to make a point. People spend a lifetime studying these vereses, miles is now a biblical expert. Why quote someone you don’t beleive?

I think there are a couple of easy points to make there, but I just can’t get on your bad side. With Denny gone I just don’t feel any love here any more.

[Gandalf]

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus - Those sound like the words of a revolutionary.

Then later his brother James seemingly says the following in one of his final sermons. James was known to have spread the word closest to that of Jesus being his brother and lead disciple: "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. .." - James

Again, these words sound more like something you would hear from a Chavez or a Castro.

Ha I like when people who don’t even follow Christianity pick a couple verses and use them to make a point. People spend a lifetime studying these vereses, miles is now a biblical expert. Why quote someone you don’t beleive?

I do not claim to be a Biblical expert, but the Bible as Brock pointed out was just the bits a few big wigs in the 3rd century decided to collate and then the rest was excluded, often violently so. Now if you want to reference only the Bible as given to you in Hollywood/theological form then that is on you, but some people like to look into the actual history of things. Jesus appeared to be a bit of a radical and surely that is no big slur. Also a nationalist too, so you ain't getting in.

[walrus]

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus - Those sound like the words of a revolutionary.

Then later his brother James seemingly says the following in one of his final sermons. James was known to have spread the word closest to that of Jesus being his brother and lead disciple: "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. .." - James

Again, these words sound more like something you would hear from a Chavez or a Castro.

Ha I like when people who don’t even follow Christianity pick a couple verses and use them to make a point. People spend a lifetime studying these vereses, miles is now a biblical expert. Why quote someone you don’t beleive?

I do not claim to be a Biblical expert, but the Bible as Brock pointed out was just the bits a few big wigs in the 3rd century decided to collate and then the rest was excluded, often violently so. Now if you want to reference only the Bible as given to you in Hollywood/theological form then that is on you, but some people like to look into the actual history of things. Jesus appeared to be a bit of a radical and surely that is no big slur. Also a nationalist too, so you ain't getting in.

Oh didn’t know Brock the prince of darkness was involved in this discussion as well. I’ll step out, have fun both of u

[brocktonblockbust]

Islam gives a much more accurate picture of what Jesus actually said and what Jesus actually stood for. In the Koran it shows Jesus as someone who is a warrior to kill and to slaughter.

The watered-down Anglo-Saxon northern European spin of what Jesus really was is the laughing stock of the world