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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    So the WBC have allowed Canelo to make a voluntary defense, while Charlo and GGG face each other to determine the mandatory.

    Enjoy your vacation, Ginger. Those belts are on short-term lease, and the contract isn't going to be renewed.

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Effing agree 100%

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there any way in the world GGG can not be a martyr? He is supposed to fight Charlo to get a shot at going right back after the money fight. That is not a victim situation. That is for once a governing body doing exactly what’s right because

    1)when champ they said they “would never fight Charlo” even though he was the mandatory. That’s BS

    2)it is the fight boxing fans want and have wanted

    3)boxing fans don’t care about Canelo, let him and the casual fans go do some Lemieux casual nonsense. Let the fighters fight. GGG/Charlo, fu$# yeah!
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160, I had no problem with him having to wait for his shot.

    I'm a boxing fan, and wood prefer Jacobs or Saunders over Charlo.

    It's just a way fur the WBC and GBP to all pocket a little more before having to roll the dice again.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Is Charlo ducking or being kept waiting....

    Don't think we need to see GGG Canelo III
    I'd like to see a 3rd, the 2nd was a very good fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160 yet.

    Don't get me wrong, this is still a very good match up, but there is unfinished business with Canelo.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there any way in the world GGG can not be a martyr? He is supposed to fight Charlo to get a shot at going right back after the money fight. That is not a victim situation. That is for once a governing body doing exactly what’s right because

    1)when champ they said they “would never fight Charlo” even though he was the mandatory. That’s BS

    2)it is the fight boxing fans want and have wanted

    3)boxing fans don’t care about Canelo, let him and the casual fans go do some Lemieux casual nonsense. Let the fighters fight. GGG/Charlo, fu$# yeah!
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160, I had no problem with him having to wait for his shot.

    I'm a boxing fan, and wood prefer Jacobs or Saunders over Charlo.

    It's just a way fur the WBC and GBP to all pocket a little more before having to roll the dice again.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Is Charlo ducking or being kept waiting....

    Don't think we need to see GGG Canelo III
    I'd like to see a 3rd, the 2nd was a very good fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160 yet.

    Don't get me wrong, this is still a very good match up, but there is unfinished business with Canelo.
    He wouldn’t be fighting Canelo before May anyway. It’s a big PPV fight, they would give it the big platform. Makes more sense after 2 years of learning nothing about the division to learn who is really the best in the meantime. A Jacobs fight can’t be done in between. A Saunders fight can’t be done in between. A Charlo fight can be done in between. A key aspect that people need to look at is who has a platform to make a fight NOW. Charlo has the platform. GGG can 1 off on Showtime and see where Canelo goes, follow him to that network

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there any way in the world GGG can not be a martyr? He is supposed to fight Charlo to get a shot at going right back after the money fight. That is not a victim situation. That is for once a governing body doing exactly what’s right because

    1)when champ they said they “would never fight Charlo” even though he was the mandatory. That’s BS

    2)it is the fight boxing fans want and have wanted

    3)boxing fans don’t care about Canelo, let him and the casual fans go do some Lemieux casual nonsense. Let the fighters fight. GGG/Charlo, fu$# yeah!
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160, I had no problem with him having to wait for his shot.

    I'm a boxing fan, and wood prefer Jacobs or Saunders over Charlo.

    It's just a way fur the WBC and GBP to all pocket a little more before having to roll the dice again.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Is Charlo ducking or being kept waiting....

    Don't think we need to see GGG Canelo III
    I'd like to see a 3rd, the 2nd was a very good fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160 yet.

    Don't get me wrong, this is still a very good match up, but there is unfinished business with Canelo.
    He wouldn’t be fighting Canelo before May anyway. It’s a big PPV fight, they would give it the big platform. Makes more sense after 2 years of learning nothing about the division to learn who is really the best in the meantime. A Jacobs fight can’t be done in between. A Saunders fight can’t be done in between. A Charlo fight can be done in between. A key aspect that people need to look at is who has a platform to make a fight NOW. Charlo has the platform. GGG can 1 off on Showtime and see where Canelo goes, follow him to that network
    If GGG was planning on sitting out until May for Canelo, then he could easily look elsewhere instead. The IBF title should be filled, the WBO title sound be filled and there is also Murata with the WBA.
    I like the Charlo fight, but GGG could easily walk straight into a title fight.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    I would rather see Pacquiao Mayweather rematch then a third fight between Triple G and Canelo

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there any way in the world GGG can not be a martyr? He is supposed to fight Charlo to get a shot at going right back after the money fight. That is not a victim situation. That is for once a governing body doing exactly what’s right because

    1)when champ they said they “would never fight Charlo” even though he was the mandatory. That’s BS

    2)it is the fight boxing fans want and have wanted

    3)boxing fans don’t care about Canelo, let him and the casual fans go do some Lemieux casual nonsense. Let the fighters fight. GGG/Charlo, fu$# yeah!
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160, I had no problem with him having to wait for his shot.

    I'm a boxing fan, and wood prefer Jacobs or Saunders over Charlo.

    It's just a way fur the WBC and GBP to all pocket a little more before having to roll the dice again.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Is Charlo ducking or being kept waiting....

    Don't think we need to see GGG Canelo III
    I'd like to see a 3rd, the 2nd was a very good fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160 yet.

    Don't get me wrong, this is still a very good match up, but there is unfinished business with Canelo.
    He wouldn’t be fighting Canelo before May anyway. It’s a big PPV fight, they would give it the big platform. Makes more sense after 2 years of learning nothing about the division to learn who is really the best in the meantime. A Jacobs fight can’t be done in between. A Saunders fight can’t be done in between. A Charlo fight can be done in between. A key aspect that people need to look at is who has a platform to make a fight NOW. Charlo has the platform. GGG can 1 off on Showtime and see where Canelo goes, follow him to that network
    If GGG was planning on sitting out until May for Canelo, then he could easily look elsewhere instead. The IBF title should be filled, the WBO title sound be filled and there is also Murata with the WBA.
    I like the Charlo fight, but GGG could easily walk straight into a title fight.
    Having the set fight completed isn’t the only obstacle to making a next fight. There is recovery time, and again, the platform. If Andrade wins, what network would a GGG/Andrade fight be on, if Saunders wins same question, if Jacobs wins what network, Derevyanchenko same question? That is a lot more negotiation that only comes after these fights are completed. But for a Charlo fight they can go to Showtime today and ask what they will pay and what date they have available. They are completely different circumstances. And Charlo is also the only option of the 5 potential opponents that can guarantee a shot at Canelo. So 1 option offers more guaranteed money and can be done now. To go around Charlo he would remove guaranteed money and wait. It’s quite clear what the best option is so if he doesn’t choose Charlo he comes off looking bad. This is exactly why I’m glad the WBC did this because GGGs team were quite clear repeatedly that they would never fight Charlo. This is the only way we can get a fight I want. So I’m all for it.

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there any way in the world GGG can not be a martyr? He is supposed to fight Charlo to get a shot at going right back after the money fight. That is not a victim situation. That is for once a governing body doing exactly what’s right because

    1)when champ they said they “would never fight Charlo” even though he was the mandatory. That’s BS

    2)it is the fight boxing fans want and have wanted

    3)boxing fans don’t care about Canelo, let him and the casual fans go do some Lemieux casual nonsense. Let the fighters fight. GGG/Charlo, fu$# yeah!
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160, I had no problem with him having to wait for his shot.

    I'm a boxing fan, and wood prefer Jacobs or Saunders over Charlo.

    It's just a way fur the WBC and GBP to all pocket a little more before having to roll the dice again.

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Is Charlo ducking or being kept waiting....

    Don't think we need to see GGG Canelo III
    I'd like to see a 3rd, the 2nd was a very good fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Nice. That’s much better. Don’t need a third fight. I think Charlo beats GGG and hopefully gets a shot at Canelo. I’ve been waiting for Charlo to get his shot for a long time.
    Charlo hasn't done anything at 160 yet.

    Don't get me wrong, this is still a very good match up, but there is unfinished business with Canelo.
    He wouldn’t be fighting Canelo before May anyway. It’s a big PPV fight, they would give it the big platform. Makes more sense after 2 years of learning nothing about the division to learn who is really the best in the meantime. A Jacobs fight can’t be done in between. A Saunders fight can’t be done in between. A Charlo fight can be done in between. A key aspect that people need to look at is who has a platform to make a fight NOW. Charlo has the platform. GGG can 1 off on Showtime and see where Canelo goes, follow him to that network
    If GGG was planning on sitting out until May for Canelo, then he could easily look elsewhere instead. The IBF title should be filled, the WBO title sound be filled and there is also Murata with the WBA.
    I like the Charlo fight, but GGG could easily walk straight into a title fight.
    Returning to this, since the day of this post GGG has fought Steve Rolls, Derevyanchenko and Szeremeta. And he’s still trying to fight Murata, what’s it 4 years now he’s been trying to fight Murata? It leads me to 2 conclusions

    1)Murata has always been GGGs hand picked opponent
    2)GGG should have fought Charlo one of the many times the organizations have ordered he do so

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Looks like Charlo will be facing Sulecki next. I guess it’s probably one of the better fights that can be made in December because everybody else already has fights.

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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Looks like Charlo will be facing Sulecki next. I guess it’s probably one of the better fights that can be made in December because everybody else already has fights.
    Saw this, I like the fight. Charlo needed to shake some rust. It's a better opponent than Monroe Jr would have been.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Oh well Jermall settled on Monroe Jr, lets hope Ron is consistent and is disappointed with the opponent choice here.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    So we now have Canelo holding a couple of belts but his next fight being at 168 against Fielding.

    Saunders being stripped and being suspend by the WBO.

    Andrade winning the vacant title.

    Jacobs winning the vacant IBF title with a SD over Derevyanchenko, and Derevyanchenko establishing himself among the top guys.

    Brant dominating Murata with an upset win to grab a portion of a title.

    Lemieux is supposed to be fighting Tureano Johnson on the Canelo undercard. I expect he'll have a tougher time than he did against O'Sullivan.

    Charlo set to face Monroe at the end of the year.


    I'm kind of hoping that the 4 Americans want to find out who's the best.
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Canelo should win the title and defend and unify it against the Gilberto Ramirez

    Saunders will fight for the WBO next against Andrade.

    Golovkin smashes Brant
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    Default Re: Middleweight, what’s next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Canelo should win the title and defend and unify it against the Gilberto Ramirez

    Saunders will fight for the WBO next against Andrade.

    Golovkin smashes Brant
    I think Andrade has been granted a voluntary in Feb. Saunders won't be ranked for 9 months by the WBO.
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