Canelo vs Fielding Dec-15

[Ron Swanson]

But Lemieux isn’t a good fighter so what’s the difference?

I think we can expect him to fight someone good in May.

[imp]

So BJS easily beats Lemieux and has a world title but still can’t get the Canelo fight?!..but Canelo will probably fight david next?!

And Charlo has to fight GGG and he’s the wbc mandatory?!

Golden boy runs boxing and Canelo is the Golden nugget.

[Freedom]

So BJS easily beats Lemieux and has a world title but still can’t get the Canelo fight?!..but Canelo will probably fight david next?!

And Charlo has to fight GGG and he’s the wbc mandatory?!

Golden boy runs boxing and Canelo is the Golden nugget.

Golden Boy doesn't run boxing. Who do they have besides Alvarez?

Hearn and Arum are much bigger promoters, and Haymon is still the most powerful manager.

[Spicoli]

Just my opinion but choreographed trinket grab moves like this tend to leave me more negative on the sport the last couple of years. It's a fight no one asked for and no one wants let alone one not a single soul was thinking of. All to get a guy who tip toed his way to full fledge 160 and didn't make a definitive defining statement until his 51st fight a "historic 4th division title" as if it's some rare feat this era. Here's the thing..if you are essentially the only big media star in an entire promotion, if you are fed with a silver spoon and allowed to skirt CWs with last minute contract changes, if you have pumped PEDs into your arse and get a slap on the wrist, if the sport passes belts around like bongs at a spring break parties and has a steady supply of sub par pretty obscure trinket holders..with respect..and if three Ws and one D on your record arguably should be Ls...it's not all that difficult or relevant. I gave Canelo nothing but respect after Golovkin II but this is nothing but an empty step sideways to have a dance solo while his entire real division is blowing up around him. And he goes on a waltz to count shiny objects and milk the teats off of the fans. I don't think he has any intention of staying there but rest assured he'll be watching his clock from the sideline while they sort each other out and Golovkin is forced to fight his mandatory . Like I said..negative on it but you have to praise it when it's great and call bs on it when it's meh. It's the move and belt milking that bugs me more. I get that he is off 24 rnd at top tier with Golovkin. One good thing it's a card a week or so before to Christmas and years end. Usually the schedule dries up badly in December.

[Alpha]

I'm curious if people would have preferred Lemieux over Fielding?

[TitoFan]

I'm curious if people would have preferred Lemieux over Fielding?

I agree with @Spicoli

Tip toed into 160 is right. Now that he's there and fought GGG twice, he's jumping up to challenge for a title at 168. Screw the other 160-pounders who would give a kidney for a shot at Canelo. Let me get that other belt while the dangerous guys at 160 knock each other out. Predictable, safe, and calculated.

Sorry... to answer your question. Yes, I would've preferred Lemieux over Fielding.

[Alpha]

I'm curious if people would have preferred Lemieux over Fielding?

I agree with @Spicoli

Tip toed into 160 is right. Now that he's there and fought GGG twice, he's jumping up to challenge for a title at 168. Screw the other 160-pounders who would give a kidney for a shot at Canelo. Let me get that other belt while the dangerous guys at 160 knock each other out. Predictable, safe, and calculated.

Sorry... to answer your question. Yes, I would've preferred Lemieux over Fielding.

For me they could be considered similar in opposition level.

[Gandalf]

Just boycott Canelo. Do not watch his fights. DO NOT WATCH!

[TitoFan]

I'm curious if people would have preferred Lemieux over Fielding?

I agree with @Spicoli

Tip toed into 160 is right. Now that he's there and fought GGG twice, he's jumping up to challenge for a title at 168. Screw the other 160-pounders who would give a kidney for a shot at Canelo. Let me get that other belt while the dangerous guys at 160 knock each other out. Predictable, safe, and calculated.

Sorry... to answer your question. Yes, I would've preferred Lemieux over Fielding.

For me they could be considered similar in opposition level.

Not saying otherwise. But stay at 160, which you avoided for so long, and fight all opposition there. Don't pretend you've somehow "cleaned out" 160 and are ready for new challenges. Otherwise, multiple weight titles are a bit meaningless. Remember Canelo initially avoid GGG and trying to goad him to 154..... and now seeing him bolt to grab a belt at 168, is so artificial and meaningless.

[Spicoli]

I'm curious if people would have preferred Lemieux over Fielding?

I agree with @Spicoli

Tip toed into 160 is right. Now that he's there and fought GGG twice, he's jumping up to challenge for a title at 168. Screw the other 160-pounders who would give a kidney for a shot at Canelo. Let me get that other belt while the dangerous guys at 160 knock each other out. Predictable, safe, and calculated.

Sorry... to answer your question. Yes, I would've preferred Lemieux over Fielding.

For me they could be considered similar in opposition level.

Feels like more of an honest fight for what was building up in front of the fans and every fight his "one punch eraser" is raved on. Then again with Lemieux already being white washed by fellow top 160 BJS and Golovkin it puts Canelo in position to improve on that or live up to in a way. I prefer Lemieux. Fielding is a blank slate State Side and guarantees Canelo all the focused stardom.

[Primo Carnera]

But Lemieux isn’t a good fighter so what’s the difference?

I think we can expect him to fight someone good in May.

If he beats Fielding , he’ll probably defend his SMW Title against the DeGale / Eubank winner , because he probably feels that GGG will either lose to Charlo or not fight him. That means he won’t be able to fight Canelo in May.
So fighting one of those 2, (one past it, the other never been up to it), would be a far better risk/reward option than any other MW bar GGG.

[powerpuncher]

But Lemieux isn’t a good fighter so what’s the difference?

I think we can expect him to fight someone good in May.

Because he has proven to bounce around weight to avoid the best fights until the right time for him comes along. I don’t trust that he will fight Fielding and then just come to MW in May and fight one of the top contenders.

[Ron Swanson]

But Lemieux isn’t a good fighter so what’s the difference?

I think we can expect him to fight someone good in May.

Because he has proven to bounce around weight to avoid the best fights until the right time for him comes along. I don’t trust that he will fight Fielding and then just come to MW in May and fight one of the top contenders.

True. I just don’t care much about Canelo. I don’t think he ever showed himself to be the best at 154 and I don’t expect him to show himself to be the best at 160. I think there are fighters in the sport and celebrities in the sport. Canelo is a celebrity. That isn’t to say he won’t take hard fights, his CV is nothing to sneeze at. Just, he is very carefully managed.

I just personally care far more about Saunders, Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, GGG, Charlo. My bias is that celebrities don’t interest me. Let Canelo do his red carpet routine, I don’t watch the Oscars. I watch fighters and am interested in fighters. The Oscars just don’t affect me even if millions tune in.

[J_Undisputed]

Don't see why clenelo needs oscar.. he's simply shadowing mayweathers career and could be making these moves by himself. Go up (catchweight for floyd to fight alvarez) find a greenie or a soft touch for a strap... This also probably a test of the UK waters to see if he can be profitable on DAZN before he signs with showtime.. seeing as hes a fighter without a home now that hbo pulled out of he boxing business. Cant see him signing with PBC or rocnation because he'll hardly ever fight and they cant afford him.

Unless he plans on staying up there to avoid the 160lb fighters (charlos, jacobs, GGG again, Andrade, BJS, etc). Whos really causing a panic at 168? besides Ramirez? Groves just got kod by a body shot, degales shot, Badou Jack is inconsistent, Eubank isn't really the goods, the dirrells are shot, Benevidez? Doubt ward can make 168 again .

[Alpha]

Don't see why clenelo needs oscar.. he's simply shadowing mayweathers career and could be making these moves by himself. Go up (catchweight for floyd to fight alvarez) find a greenie or a soft touch for a strap... This also probably a test of the UK waters to see if he can be profitable on DAZN before he signs with showtime.. seeing as hes a fighter without a home now that hbo pulled out of he boxing business. Cant see him signing with PBC or rocnation because he'll hardly ever fight and they cant afford him.

Unless he plans on staying up there to avoid the 160lb fighters (charlos, jacobs, GGG again, Andrade, BJS, etc). Whos really causing a panic at 168? besides Ramirez? Groves just got kod by a body shot, degales shot, Badou Jack is inconsistent, Eubank isn't really the goods, the dirrells are shot, Benevidez? Doubt ward can make 168 again .

Benavidez is tough at 168, Smith just beat the #1 guy, Ramirez hasn't been impressive but would be a nice scalp. Some of those guys you mentioned could be looked at as easy money fights (DeGale/ Eubank winner for example).

I think it was Ron who said in another thread that Canelo giving up the title makes no sense, what do you think now? Canelo and GBP won't be dictated to. Which is the very reason the WBC ordered GGG/ Charlo, because they didn't want to upset the apple cart and have Canelo walk away again.

I think Canelo stays at 168, it's not as dangerous as 160 and he can make good money against guys that the public will begrudgingly accept.