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Sorry, forgot to respond to your last part.

Do you really believe they could put a GGG/ Charlo fight together for December? I'm not saying that GGG can't fight in December, but he is 36 and probably needs a bit of extra time to recover than a younger man, who has previously tested positive for banned substances.

Would Charlo take that fight in December after only 2 rounds in 18 months?
The key difference is we don’t know for a fact Charlo, who has every right to, has petitioned to avoid GGG. We know GGG petitioned to avoid a Charlo fight. We have no evidence Charlo is looking anywhere else, we know GGG has contacted at least 4 other camps besides Canelo’s and we have no evidence GGG has contacted Charlo’s camp.

True we have no evidence Charlo’s camp has contacted GGGs, the difference is who has openly looked elsewhere and openly petitioned to avoid.

It may very well come out Charlo doesn’t want GGG right now. But we know GGG doesn’t want Charlo right now.

We can look at business, next occasion we can look at venues, next occasion...he was GGGs mandatory for over a year.

I don’t think it’s very fair to blame a guy being avoided for his weak opposition until he gets his chance. Once he can choose then it becomes fair to judge. I mean who’s fault is it that Charlo hasn’t faced GGG for example?

I can certainly understand GGG looking at someone else, but looking at everyone else looks bad.
Like I have pointed out, the Charlo fight is not as relevant as the others for 1 reason or another.

If Charlo brought GGG 40 million, GGG would fight him tomorrow. GGG has said he would fight him.

Charlo won't even bring in as much as a Murata fight in Japan would, GGG will be idolized over there.

The winner of either of the middleweight title fights, will obviously have a better name on there records than Charlo has, as well as a title.

Of course Charlo would want GGG or Canelo for that matter, that's common sense, you don't call out guys below you, and the purses he would get for those fights will be career highs.

What does Charlo bring to the table? Other that being a top fight?

I think it's unfair to say GGG is avoiding Charlo, sure Charlo may have been mandatory but we all know the sanctioning bodies are ridiculous. Who did Charlo beat to get that spot again?

Unfortunately Charlo just isn't in that bracket yet, and if you feel beating the likes of Heiland and Centeno should put him ahead of Jacobs (who arguably beat GGG) and is not fighting another top middleweight, or Saunders/ Andrade, or a huge even against Murata, then that's fine, that's your opinion. I definitely feel a Charlo fight would be more difficult than some of those, but he needs to get in line.