Did Inoue step on Payano's foot before landing the right?

[Yuzo]

Yep that's it

my conclusion is, after inoue jabs, a little hesitation signals to payano he is done punching, so its now his turn to punch. my turn. your turn. and at that moment, he gets hit with a right hand.



my guess is he was in the process of starting a jab when he gets hit and was interrupted by the right hand.

[Fenster]

What really happened is - The pause from Inoue was due to subconsciously admiring how perfect the jab squashed Payano's face in half, he then briefly contemplated whether or not he really is "The One," which delayed the right hand. Fact.

1i2u3y4t5h6n7m8f9m - Inoue sees the world like you post Brock.

[greynotsoold]

All he did was jab then pivot on his left foot to cut the distance the right had to travel and to get all his weight turning on the punch. It also moved him out of line for the other guy's left hand.

[Yuzo]

All he did was jab then pivot on his left foot to cut the distance the right had to travel and to get all his weight turning on the punch. It also moved him out of line for the other guy's left hand.

not so.



left foot never moves. right foot moves only after the punch has landed. body stays in one place. no pivoting or fancy moving around him as you are implying.

[brocktonblockbust]

I also felt that the lead left foot of the Japanese fighter did not move until after he landed the follow up straight right hand.

I like the interpretation of the subconscious sort of presumption of "YOU HIT ME THEN I HIT YOU", almost as a given in the Dominican Fighters mind, then a little hitch--- first I thought his foot has been stepped on, that little hitch,---- the interpretation above is also more psychological rather than physical as I had first proposed.

[Yuzo]

I also felt that the lead left foot of the Japanese fighter did not move until after he landed the follow up straight right hand.

I like the interpretation of the subconscious sort of presumption of "YOU HIT ME THEN I HIT YOU", almost as a given in the Dominican Fighters mind, then a little hitch--- first I thought his foot has been stepped on, that little hitch,---- the interpretation above is also more psychological rather than physical as I had first proposed.

thats right. i think that little pause after the jab got payano thinking whatever inoue was doing was over, and in that lapse, gets hit. inoue just had the right mind to notice it to pull the trigger there. i think its more to timing instincts and reflexes, rather than, he put his foot x and he put his hand y, so thats why he got hit. i think that approach is overthinking. i think boxing is more instinctive than it is intellectual.

[greynotsoold]

All he did was jab then pivot on his left foot to cut the distance the right had to travel and to get all his weight turning on the punch. It also moved him out of line for the other guy's left hand.

not so.



left foot never moves. right foot moves only after the punch has landed. body stays in one place. no pivoting or fancy moving around him as you are implying.

He very clearly does pivot as he throws the right hand; look where he ends up at the end.

[greynotsoold]

And he did step on Payano's foot.

[Yuzo]

All he did was jab then pivot on his left foot to cut the distance the right had to travel and to get all his weight turning on the punch. It also moved him out of line for the other guy's left hand.

not so.



left foot never moves. right foot moves only after the punch has landed. body stays in one place. no pivoting or fancy moving around him as you are implying.

He very clearly does pivot as he throws the right hand; look where he ends up at the end.

this differs from your claim that he jabs, then steps into a different location to throw a right hand.



looks like he throws the right hand from the same place he threw the jab. he only moves elsewhere after the punch lands. but that seemed to be to get out of the way, than a tactic to set up an angle for a punch that he had already threw.

[brocktonblockbust]

Joe that is a great post. You know instinctively I just felt without seeing their feet in the video that I watched that something happened to Payanos lead right foot, the way in which he slightly squares up even if it's just by a centimeter or two is rather odd and you would not think of taking that defensive position after getting hit with a jab.

Yuzo also makes that great point that is instinctual and not calculated sometimes