Saunders v Andrade - Boston 20/10/18 - Sky/DAZN - CANCELLED

[Master]

I think everyone wants Andrade to win, even the Brits.

[p4pking]

I don’t care who wins, but this is a very good fight. Both guys are really tricky, Andrade is a very under looked/rated fighter imo. Maybe he’s hot and cold, but he does certain things extremely well.

[GAME]

Saunders has been denied his licence and will be stripped of his title

cant say I'm disappointed. After the way he's conducted himself in recent months getting caught for drugs wasn't surprising, I bet David Lemieux is loving it.

[imp]

Waste of talent.

[smashup]

Billy Joe Saunders: Demetrius Andrade fight CANCELLED as champ 'launches VULGAR tirade'

Massachusetts State Athletic Commission has refused to grant the Englishman a licence to fight, who reportedly shouted at board members to "suck my *****" through the speakerphone after hearing the decision.

This is as a result of Saunders failing a voluntary drugs test.

[Alpha]

Good job.

Disappointed that the fight is not happening, but no one to blame but himself.

[TitoFan]

Billy Joe Saunders: Demetrius Andrade fight CANCELLED as champ 'launches VULGAR tirade'

Massachusetts State Athletic Commission has refused to grant the Englishman a licence to fight, who reportedly shouted at board members to "suck my *****" through the speakerphone after hearing the decision.

This is as a result of Saunders failing a voluntary drugs test.

Wow. Surprised they didn't immediately reconvene for a re-vote.

[smashup]

In the meantime, Andrade and the WBO’s next available contender, Walter Kautondokwa of Namibia, already completed a signed bout agreement in anticipation of Saunders being denied a license, sources told The Ring. Andrade will still earn $800,000, per sources, the purse he was scheduled to make against Saunders.

Andrade-Kautondokwa will headline Eddie Hearn’s event streamed on DAZN on October 20, and the winner could be crowned the new WBO middleweight titleholder.



The adverse finding was revealed on September 27, with Saunders and promoter Frank Warren arguing that the stimulant was found in a nasal spray the fighter was using. They also argued that oxilofrine is allowed to be used out of competition under the auspices of United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD). It didn’t matter.

Both Saunders (26-0, 12 knockouts) and Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs) agreed to supplementary testing conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) at Victor Conte’s behest. The former head of the infamous lab BALCO, who designed performance-enhancing substances for athletes like Barry Bonds and Sugar Shane Mosley, is overseeing Andrade’s strength and conditioning regimen at his SNAC headquarters in the Bay Area. Conte, now an advocate for clean sport, paid $16,000 out of pocket to cover the cost of comprehensive testing for both fighters.

“I don’t really think (the commission) had any other choice,” Conte, who also works with middleweight contender Daniel Jacobs and lightweight contender Devin Haney, told The Ring.

“I know this is boxing and anything can happen in boxing and there’s a lot of money (involved), but there was a signed agreement, and it’s very clear in that agreement that they’re agreeing to a list of prohibited substances; it says at all times. You’re either pregnant or you’re not. They either found it or they didn’t. I think it’s a real simple case.”

VADA doesn’t differentiate between in competition and out of competition, and the Massachusetts commission respected the signed drug-testing protocol agreement. “You’re telling me there’s not going to be a fight and I’m denied a license?” Saunders said during the conference call, according to Conte. “I won’t be fighting on October 20?”

When the commission affirmed that yes, there would indeed be no fight, Saunders replied “You can all suck my prick!” The mercurial southpaw will miss out on a career-high purse of $2.3 million, per sources, and Tuesday’s decision only adds to the mounting trouble Saunders has faced.

The 29-year-old twice withdrew from scheduled middleweight title bouts with Martin Murray, citing injuries. It was revealed after the second cancellation that he had agreed to a fight with Gennady Golokvin in the event a deal with Canelo Alvarez couldn’t be struck for the rematch, casting doubt on the legitimacy of his injury claim.

Saunders also was fined $100,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control last month in the aftermath of a video that surfaced where the fighter entices a woman to attack a passerby in exchange for crack.

“I think this whole nasal spray excuse is highly questionable,” said Conte, who has sponsored more than 10 fighters for VADA testing in the past. “I have not been able to find any nasal spray that contains oxilofrine. It’s likely it came from an underground source. I was highly suspicious before this because he lost so much weight so quickly for his two previous opponents.

“I knew there was verbiage in the contract with Willie Monroe Jr. where they said they would be testing by VADA or the equivalent entity and there was no testing.”

Alvarez, who tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol in February, scraping that May 5 rematch with GGG, claimed it was all a result of contaminated meat consumed in Mexico. Saunders, of course, blamed it on a nasal spray. Conte said that Alvarez’s alibi is plausible — “one out of three times in Mexico you’re getting contaminated meat” — while Saunders isn’t.

Conte noted that the potential adverse effects for oxilofrine usage, like a stroke or heart attack, are more clear than with clenbuterol. The receptors for oxilofrine are in the heart; with clenbuterol, they’re in the lungs.

“This substance is about increasing heart rate and the cardiac stimulation is much stronger … it’s very powerful,” Conte said. “The only medical use (for oxilofrine) is low-blood pressure. I don’t believe he has low blood pressure. I believe he likely took this to help him lose weight. It accelerates the rate at which you burn calories. With each and every heartbeat it’s pushing more blood.”

So if Saunders indeed knowingly used the banned substance, why would he do when he already signed up for random, comprehensive anti-doping. Conte has a theory.

“He was held to WADA standard, which UKAD follows, and he had been using this stuff in the past — this is a guess on my part — and just didn’t use it on fight night and it doesn’t show up (in test results post fight),” Conte reasoned. “You can use methamphetamine, a stronger chemical cousin (out of competition in the U.K.), and it would be OK. I hope others don’t realize what a huge loophole this is and start using these dangerous substances.

“WADA has huge loopholes in it. VADA, it looks like, is the new gold standard in the sport of boxing. This is a great day for the anti-doping movement in boxing.”

It’s not, however, a great day for Saunders, Andrade or Hearn. The 30-year-old native of Providence, Rhode Island was preparing for the most high-profile fight of his career. Instead, Andrade is now relegated to fighting Kautondokwa (17-0, 16 KOs), an unknown commodity who has never competed outside Africa.

And Hearn, who is short on notable events for his deal with DAZN, loses the most highly anticipated fight on his fall slate.

https://www.ringtv.com/545475-billy-...kwa-on-oct-20/

[east end bob]

I think everyone wants Andrade to win, even the Brits.

I don't know where you get the idea that Saunders has no support here. People like him even though sometimes he can be as daft as a brush" He is a fight anybody "fighter and has proved that he can up and alter his game. Andrade is largely unknown here but those in the know accept that he is a good fighter. We know Billy Joe is a good fighter too. Some of us feel that he has the ability to be great. Lets hope he shows that and that that the best man wins.

[Master]

I think everyone wants Andrade to win, even the Brits.

I don't know where you get the idea that Saunders has no support here. People like him even though sometimes he can be as daft as a brush" He is a fight anybody "fighter and has proved that he can up and alter his game. Andrade is largely unknown here but those in the know accept that he is a good fighter. We know Billy Joe is a good fighter too. Some of us feel that he has the ability to be great. Lets hope he shows that and that that the best man wins.

I am not disputing Saunders has talent and one of the most skilled boxers on the planet at his weight class which just makes this situation even worse for him.

[Primo Carnera]

Oh well. Next.

[Memphis]

I'm kind of glad. Their shtick about it being no problem and that the BBBoC had no problem with it, neither did UKAD stunk to high heaven of arrogance. Massachusetts involvement in proceedings was downplayed to the point of being redundant. If I was a shot caller in the Commission I'd have been thinking right you cunts. I wanted them to come a cropper if I'm honest.

Saunders has systematically undone any good work he's done recently and only has himself to blame. He wont of course, it's because he's a traveller.

He'll be off to Eddie in a flash to buy him into a decent fight in six months.

[Ron Swanson]

I think everyone wants Andrade to win, even the Brits.

I don't know where you get the idea that Saunders has no support here. People like him even though sometimes he can be as daft as a brush" He is a fight anybody "fighter and has proved that he can up and alter his game. Andrade is largely unknown here but those in the know accept that he is a good fighter. We know Billy Joe is a good fighter too. Some of us feel that he has the ability to be great. Lets hope he shows that and that that the best man wins.

Strange thing in boxing where every fighter described as a fight anybody fighter has both turned down fights and a crap CV.

[Master]

Billy Joe Saunders could face action over hearing outburst as boxer is denied licence for Demetrius Andrade bout

Billy Joe Saunders could face fresh punishment after allegedly abusing American boxing officials after being refused a licence to fight next week.

Saunders was due to defend his WBO middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade in Boston on Saturday week, but was denied the right after a failed doping test.

The 29-year-old returned an adverse finding for the stimulant oxilofrine in a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association test in August. His promoter, Frank Warren, is likely to launch a legal battle against the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission, though, insisting the authorities must follow World Anti-Doping Agency rules and regard the test as being “out of competition”.

An alternative opponent, Namibia’s Walter Kautondokwa, has already been brought in to take on Andrade while the WBO sanctioning body goes through the legal process of officially stripping the Welwyn Garden City fighter of his belt.

Saunders is said to have been connected to the licence hearing on a telephone conference call and to have greeted the commission’s ruling by telling them over the line: “You can all s*** my p****”. That may lead to action by the British Boxing Board of Control, which recently hit Saunders with a £100,000 fine for bringing the sport into disrepute after he was seen in a social media video taunting a female drug user and offering her cash to perform a sex act. He was also given a severe reprimand about his future conduct.

The Board may now take further action over this episode, which has demeaned the standing of the sport, and could even withdraw Saunders’s licence to box in Britain.

The undefeated fighter has now lost a major opportunity to make an impact in the United States and a £1.8million pay day.

Saunders and Warren said the failed test was the result of the boxer unwittingly inhaling from a nasal decongestant spray and believed he would be given permission to compete.

Warren insists that the authorities in Boston have allowed UFC fighters to compete in similar circumstances and that could form the basis of a legal action against the ruling.

Although the WBO have already begun the process of removing Saunders’s title, he has 10 days in which to appeal.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/bil...100000348.html

[brocktonblockbust]

Kautondokwa will win KO 2