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To be honest...I don't think that he did all that poorly. The fighter was difficult & that's that. Maybe Joe had a bad night...if it was last night or maybe a night two years ago...people will say that he passed off a shitty performance.

The thing is...no one really knows how good Bika actually is...do they?

He was good enough to batter Beyer (as did Kessler!!! Whoooooooooo hoooooo!!!!)...he was good enough to stand toe to toe with Joe...

Before ripping Joe's performance...youv'e got two options that you should really consider above all else.

#1: Not you, not Wacko, not anyone really knows how good Bika actually is...do they? Apparently Calzaghe does.

#2: Calzaghe's come this far...& it hasn't been based just on luck. It's a shame to hear everyone rip into him.

Not that Bika was a challenge of challenges...but Calzaghe suffers from "Mayweather Syndrome".

No matter who he beats, how he wins, & what titles or belts adorn him people will always scorn him.
You know what. Maybe Calzaghe wouldn't be come down so hard if all them if all them Calzaghe fans weren't hyping this guy to beat Roy and Hopkins and everything else because of his victory against Jeff Lacy He was sio hyped up beyond belief OVER LACY!!! And now that its been shown how overhyped he was made you talk about 'nobody knows how good Bika is'

I may as well say that of the guy that Zab fought(right after the Spinks fight) I may as well say "No one knows how good he really is"

Please! If you still think Calzaghe could hang with the likes of Jones and Hopkins you're dreaming. And trying to upgrade Bika like he's the next second coming to Calzaghe is insulting. As good as ya'll hyped Calzaghe to be and now you're saying Bika is soo good I guess he could beat James Toney then right?
So if somebody thinks that Calzaghe could beat a shadow of his former self Roy Jones they're dreaming


Yeah I don't think he would have a chance against the Roy that fought Glen Johnson or that fought the third Tarver fight. Not a chance, that Roy's just too dominant.

Tarver and Johnson aint Bika. And the Calzaghe I saw would be stopped by both of them
So were just going on one fight? I've seen enough Calzaghe fights to know he fought last night like he fights against a lot of guys that aren't even relatively big names. Cocky, hands down, taking unneccessary risks, he didn't fight with the same focus he did against Lacy and which he would against another bigger name. And Johnson has stopped like 4 or 5 guys in his last 20 fights, he couldn't even stop Richard Hall, why he would stop a guy like Joe who has a good chin is beyond me. And Tarver would have to stop him, with him getting old and probably too big for the weight he'd probably be too sluggish to win a decision.

I just haven't seen anything from Roy since the second Tarver fight to make me think he can compete at a high level anymore, the Badi Ajamu fight just didn't do much for me, Rico Hoye won 9 rounds against Ajamu. And I don't see him winning a decision cause of his habit that he's picked up of laying against the ropes, covering up and not throwing much. If he was gunshy against Johnson's pressure I would think he wouldn't be much better against the much more active pressure of Calzaghe. A stoppage win would be the most likely for Jones and I don't see that as extremely likely.

I'd probably favor Hopkins though.