Retirement..age vs mileage?

[Spicoli]

I think mileage, wear and tear and it's quality have more to do with it than age. The thing is I think it's a minority of boxers that can actually choose to retire. Age and time pass as the young just try to get another taste of the once big checks and large venues with a belt and ultimately it's the mileage and reputation for it that keeps them in. Next thing you know you're Livingstone Bramble or Demarcus Corley. Many many guys today who are flirting with one tough war too many but the 'name' trumps common sense in match making and we see them again, Juan M Lopez, Mike Alvarado, Soto Karass, Adamek, Orlando Cruz, Brandon Rios are doing nothing but collecting damage and should already be out. Guys like Hopkins looked at age and mastered-manipulated it and it feels literally had two completely separate but successful careers. I guess you can say the same for Foreman who made age a selling point and proved that walking away before 30 and actually maturing and growing wise with age breathes life into a second career. A head like a oak tree stump and concussive right-left also helped.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I think mileage, wear and tear and it's quality have more to do with it than age. The thing is I think it's a minority of boxers that can actually choose to retire. Age and time pass as the young just try to get another taste of the once big checks and large venues with a belt and ultimately it's the mileage and reputation for it that keeps them in. Next thing you know you're Livingstone Bramble or Demarcus Corley. Many many guys today who are flirting with one tough war too many but the 'name' trumps common sense in match making and we see them again, Juan M Lopez, Mike Alvarado, Soto Karass, Adamek, Orlando Cruz, Brandon Rios are doing nothing but collecting damage and should already be out. Guys like Hopkins looked at age and mastered-manipulated it and it feels literally had two completely separate but successful careers. I guess you can say the same for Foreman who made age a selling point and proved that walking away before 30 and actually maturing and growing wise with age breathes life into a second career. A head like a oak tree stump and concussive right-left also helped.

I personally feel Old Foreman was superior to Young Foreman, and that he would have demolished any version of Tyson

[Master]

I think mileage, wear and tear and it's quality have more to do with it than age. The thing is I think it's a minority of boxers that can actually choose to retire. Age and time pass as the young just try to get another taste of the once big checks and large venues with a belt and ultimately it's the mileage and reputation for it that keeps them in. Next thing you know you're Livingstone Bramble or Demarcus Corley. Many many guys today who are flirting with one tough war too many but the 'name' trumps common sense in match making and we see them again, Juan M Lopez, Mike Alvarado, Soto Karass, Adamek, Orlando Cruz, Brandon Rios are doing nothing but collecting damage and should already be out. Guys like Hopkins looked at age and mastered-manipulated it and it feels literally had two completely separate but successful careers. I guess you can say the same for Foreman who made age a selling point and proved that walking away before 30 and actually maturing and growing wise with age breathes life into a second career. A head like a oak tree stump and concussive right-left also helped.

I personally feel Old Foreman was superior to Young Foreman, and that he would have demolished any version of Tyson

Old Foreman had the experience and intelligence to pace himself but not the physicality that youth would have given him. Add the 2 together and you get the near perfect heavyweight.

[p4pking]

Some good points. I’d think of it as being less about mileage, as punishment taken, and individuals genetics and brain chemistry. For someone like Hopkins, obviously he was better at 35 than 45, but he was able to use the mileage as experience, adapt his style and stay effective. Lots of guys have been like that. Obviously not being badly hurt along the way helps immensely. Someone like Foreman was just a freak of nature, but maybe the long layoff helped his body/brain recover. Whether guys are actually being concussed, and how their brain responds to that is paramount. It often happens in sparring and we never hear about it. It is a complex thing.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

Yo can we talk about Archie Moore for a second

Dude was a legitimate boxing genius

[p4pking]

Dog, that cat lost to Muhammad Ali, who was a novice and needed help from the corner to beat Henry Cooper around the same time. He wasn’t ish bruh. Fought lots of guys with losing records when he had over 100 fights. Could have never competed with Charlie Z, much less AB.

[Master]

Yo can we talk about Archie Moore for a second

Dude was a legitimate boxing genius

Watched Archie Moore vs Yvon Durelle recently and what a fight!

[Alpha]

Yo can we talk about Archie Moore for a second

Dude was a legitimate boxing genius

Watched Archie Moore vs Yvon Durelle recently and what a fight!

The standard by which great fights are measured.