Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
To be honest...I don't think that he did all that poorly. The fighter was difficult & that's that. Maybe Joe had a bad night...if it was last night or maybe a night two years ago...people will say that he passed off a shitty performance.

The thing is...no one really knows how good Bika actually is...do they?

He was good enough to batter Beyer (as did Kessler!!! Whoooooooooo hoooooo!!!!)...he was good enough to stand toe to toe with Joe...

Before ripping Joe's performance...youv'e got two options that you should really consider above all else.

#1: Not you, not Wacko, not anyone really knows how good Bika actually is...do they? Apparently Calzaghe does.

#2: Calzaghe's come this far...& it hasn't been based just on luck. It's a shame to hear everyone rip into him.

Not that Bika was a challenge of challenges...but Calzaghe suffers from "Mayweather Syndrome".

No matter who he beats, how he wins, & what titles or belts adorn him people will always scorn him.
Quote Originally Posted by Starr
You know what. Maybe Calzaghe wouldn't be come down so hard if all them if all them Calzaghe fans weren't hyping this guy to beat Roy and Hopkins and everything else because of his victory against Jeff Lacy He was sio hyped up beyond belief OVER LACY!!! And now that its been shown how overhyped he was made you talk about 'nobody knows how good Bika is'
You know what. Shit like this is aggrevating.

Quite often...you cry about people trying to twist your words & say that you said this & they said that you said that...I'm not overhyping Lacy, Calzaghe, or Bika.

You ran with that Bika shit. I simply said no one knows how good Bika is/was. He put a hurting on Beyer & he also gave Joe some troubles. Joe is undefeated in 42 fights now & he's a hell of a fighter...I have always said that...before Lacy. The funny thing is...I make a statement & you say that I am hyping or over hyping...I'm simply conversating...not trying to give you grounds to disprove every word that I type.

Bika did good against Beyer, he did good against Joe, & I think that it's fair to give Bika some credit & the benefit of the doubt...boxing fans often do that. They speculate on fights & that often brings enjoyment to the game. Seems like, more & more lately...youv'e forgotten how to do that, instead you try to chop up everyone's opinions. What's the deal with that?

Either way...Lacy, Kessler, & Calzaghe & quite possibley Bika are the cream of the 168 crop at the moment.

Quote Originally Posted by Starr
I may as well say that of the guy that Zab fought(right after the Spinks fight) I may as well say "No one knows how good he really is"
You might as well not say shit about Judah...we all know how good he is...the problem with Judah is that he's to retarded to notice his own abilities.

Quote Originally Posted by Starr
Please! If you still think Calzaghe could hang with the likes of Jones and Hopkins you're dreaming. And trying to upgrade Bika like he's the next second coming to Calzaghe is insulting. As good as ya'll hyped Calzaghe to be and now you're saying Bika is soo good I guess he could beat James Toney then right?
That really is quite ridiculous.

Lately...I almost wonder if youv'e let someone else take over your screen name.

I haven't tried to upgrade Bika...but if you watched the fight...you saw him fighting...you saw him hanging in with the best at 168 & I am sure you saw him run the full 12. What's funny about you lately is that you are guilty of what you accuse others of doing to you.

So the fact that I say that Calzaghe is one of my favorites (alongside Hops, Jones, Wright, Floyd, & the rest of the list) but I recognize the fact that Bika did well against him equates to hyping & overhyping & all that other bullshit you try to cook up?

What has happened to you?

I said that Bika did good against two of the tops in 168...one of those two tops (let's be clear here...I mean Beyer) wasn't all that...you ran with the rest of that & then brought in James Toney.

Let's discuss things that are relevant...all this reaching & struggling bullshit that your'e pulling is getting old. Calzaghe has had a few bad nights. He's been knocked down...but he's gotten up & he's then defeated the man that dropped him.

Roy Jones has been knocked out twice...but Tarver & Johnson...I think that if I want to speculate that Calzaghe would defeat Jones...I wouldn't be too far in the wrong...but if I am...it's my choice to speculate...& for the record...YES JOE CALZAGHE WOULD BEAT THE JONES OF TODAY.

Still not sure what the output of Calzaghe against Hopkins would be.

Hopkins Calzaghe would be one hell of a fight...I know that much...but I probably shouldn't even have spoken...as I am sure you know the exact outcome.

Again...I just understand the bitterness.