Terence Crawford- the best P4P in the sport today!

[mikeeod]

@Alpha, circling back on the comment of Usyk having the better competition when compared to Loma. He has beaten the best of his division, for sure (and had some good, tough fights along the way), but I feel like cruiserweights have historically been a less talented division/group. This may be because I became a fan in the 80s and after Evander left there wasn’t much talent or love for the cruisers and I’m biased. I just always felt, even when I competed, that the comp around the smaller to middle weights were much tougher since the talent pool was so kick larger. I recognize that this may just be my personal bias, but interested in other people’s perspectives.

[p4pking]

@Alpha, circling back on the comment of Usyk having the better competition when compared to Loma. He has beaten the best of his division, for sure (and had some good, tough fights along the way), but I feel like cruiserweights have historically been a less talented division/group. This may be because I became a fan in the 80s and after Evander left there wasn’t much talent or love for the cruisers and I’m biased. I just always felt, even when I competed, that the comp around the smaller to middle weights were much tougher since the talent pool was so kick larger. I recognize that this may just be my personal bias, but interested in other people’s perspectives.

I didn’t become a fan of breathing until the late 80s, so I probably can’t offer you a lot of insight, but I have thought that cruisers have often been underrated in recent years. There is nothing close to the weight difference between either side of it. You’re talking a lot on either side. It’s also a pretty easy case to argue that guys in general are less coordinated/talented the bigger they are. I feel like a lot of very good fighters fall victim to just being the wrong size to compete in a more glamorous division, and that a lot of extremely good fighters only moved up to HW for the financial benefit and notoriety. Holyfield’s as good an example as any. He was almost certainly juiced to the gills his whole career at HW, and his average weight was what, 215?

[Alpha]

Haha fan of breathing 😂 F-ckin auto correct aye?

Size has never really mattered to me, I prefer to go of opposition and what I see in front of me.

Remember the current cruisers are about the same size roughly as some of our favourite heavies, Big George never really got much over 220 until after his comeback. Ali was his best around 210. Today's cruisers rehydrate to at least that.

I'm pretty sure watching Usyk we can all agree that he is a fantastic fighter. It's sort of the same as Ricardo Lopez (not comparing him to Usyk) just that his form was punch perfect and in that only many rate him as a great, the opposition is what let's him down.

Just a few of my thoughts on it.

[Ron Swanson]

I thought it was a folksy way of saying he was born in the late 80s haha

[p4pking]

Yea man, you finally got something right!

[Alpha]

Yea man, you finally got something right!

Thanks 😂

[Fenster]

It would be fairer if we listed the negatives about Crawford's opposition, like has been done for Loma, instead of focusing on only positives. Or at least acknowledge the positives of Loma's opposition.

It's easy to pick holes in any fighters record and spin it however you want. The pro-Crawford camp instantly say - "too small" - about a bonafide P4P elite in Rigo whilst ignoring Gamboa was a natural featherweight who moved back down to 130 after facing Crawford. His only fight at 135 he struggled to a PTS win over Darleys Perez, a man Crolla and Campbell knocked out before losing to Linares (the supposed weak resume guy who was a three-weight champion and WBC and WBA and Ring at 135).

Postol? Best win is a "shot" Matthysse, then lost against a 12-0 British prospect.

Indongo? Best win is an upset over a "shot" Burns, then got annihilated inside 6 minutes by Prograis.

Beltran? Just the 7 other losses besides Crawford for a drug cheat.

Diaz? Benavidez? Dulorme? They haven't even won an alphabet between them.