Big Baby vs. Fres Oquendo set for Nov 17

[Primo Carnera]

Fair play to Miller keeping busy. what baffles me is fighting so regularly , how does the fat bastard manage to put on so much weight?

[Spicoli]

Nothing but sanctioned elder abuse. If this doesn't say useless half arse title warmers I don't know what does. Done with Miller he's a joke.

[p4pking]

Yes Oquendo is old as dirt, but in fairness he has had a horrible run of luck. In his career in general, but especially over the last however many years he’s just been on the shelf waiting. Whatever you think of the trinket, for him it’s a payday to retire with. He got screwed against Chagaev Years ago, won a court decision to get another shot, and since then has had what, 3, 4 guys fail drug tests?
This should definitely be a mismatch, but if it weren’t for Miller having just fought Adamek, it wouldn’t look as bad on him. It’s a way to gain a trinket and have a bargaining chip, and as was said at least stay busy. The fight itself is shit, but you can’t blame either guy that much for taking it, is I guess my point.

[brocktonblockbust]

For some reason I always felt a little bit sorry for Fresno Kendo. Not that anybody was really ducking him to put it mildly haha but it always seems like he couldn't get the fights over the years. My opinion is he's probably too old to be fighting although, you know, come to think of it guys like Ray Mercer and Andrew golota and Michael Grant Etc. They all started to fight well into their 40s, I even so Larry Donald I think for Less spring now how old is that guy? I think a fighter is a fighter and they just can't get it out of them plus it's a good way to earn some more money right mister Fres?

[brocktonblockbust]

For some reason I always felt a little bit sorry for Fres oquendo. Not that anybody was really ducking him to put it mildly haha but it always seemed like he couldn't get the fights over the years. My opinion is he's probably too old to be fighting although, you know, come to think of it guys like Ray Mercer and Andrew golota and Michael Grant Etc. They all started to fight well into their 40s, I even so Larry Donald I think for Less spring now how old is that guy? I think a fighter is a fighter and they just can't get it out of them plus it's a good way to earn some more money right mister Fres?

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I got money on Oquendo

[Alpha]

I got money on Oquendo

I'll give you 10/1

Feel bad for Fres with all the doping he has had to put up with. At what point does he start having issues with being cleared medically? (That will never happen tho, look at some of these guys that get the all clear). But imagine if Oquendo gets seriously hurt.

I like that Miller is staying active, that's all I can really say about this fight.

[Spicoli]

Yes Oquendo is old as dirt, but in fairness he has had a horrible run of luck. In his career in general, but especially over the last however many years he’s just been on the shelf waiting. Whatever you think of the trinket, for him it’s a payday to retire with. He got screwed against Chagaev Years ago, won a court decision to get another shot, and since then has had what, 3, 4 guys fail drug tests?
This should definitely be a mismatch, but if it weren’t for Miller having just fought Adamek, it wouldn’t look as bad on him. It’s a way to gain a trinket and have a bargaining chip, and as was said at least stay busy. The fight itself is shit, but you can’t blame either guy that much for taking it, is I guess my point.

True fair enough, I don't begrudge Fres his day in court but this has become the black hole of court ordered title fights. And I don't fault Miller for trying to get paid. The environment in that fight was almost a freak show with the Grozny (?) President basically working the corner of Chagaev. To be selfish..I just want young American heavies to play the part though . Aim higher and refuse to take the path of least resistance especially in Millers case. No heavyweight title fight should ever be known as a 'stay busy' fight. Bin the tin trinket and face-defeat another top ranked hungry heavy in a true test, fans will remember and respect that the same.

[El Kabong]

Fres has been around a loooong time. I thought he could legit accomplish something when he was outboxing Tua, but nope. He should have won vs Chris Byrd when they fought but nope.


Big Baby is just going to gobble old Fres up like the Blob...hopefully he fights someone decent after this. It's good to stay busy but damn son, get a good fight under your belt not just a fight vs anyone.

[brocktonblockbust]

"the black hole"

Bang on with that one! 👏👏👏

[palmerq]

Nothing but sanctioned elder abuse. If this doesn't say useless half arse title warmers I don't know what does. Done with Miller he's a joke.

How much of this is downto Miller and how much is his promoter and manager... Every time I see Miller talk he says he'll fight this guy or that guy... Hearn owns him just now so if he wants the fight v joshua he has to do what he's told...

[Spicoli]

Nothing but sanctioned elder abuse. If this doesn't say useless half arse title warmers I don't know what does. Done with Miller he's a joke.

How much of this is downto Miller and how much is his promoter and manager... Every time I see Miller talk he says he'll fight this guy or that guy... Hearn owns him just now so if he wants the fight v joshua he has to do what he's told...

Just following orders . Miller isn't the first and won't be the last young hopeful being tip toed to a title belt but if Hearn and Miller think this does anything for them once the real fights do start they are kidding themselves. There does appear to be change of opponent so not even sure if it's still for a trinket though? Maybe Trevor Bryant?

[Alpha]

Fres apparently turned down a 1 million dollar purse.

Bogdan Dinu has accepted the fight, will Miller take this fight?

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I got money on Oquendo

I'll give you 10/1

Feel bad for Fres with all the doping he has had to put up with. At what point does he start having issues with being cleared medically? (That will never happen tho, look at some of these guys that get the all clear). But imagine if Oquendo gets seriously hurt.

I like that Miller is staying active, that's all I can really say about this fight.

You're gonna lose a lot of money when Fres kayos him in the seventh with an uppercut

Sounds like Oquendo is out for this date. New opponent being sort for Miller.

Well shit

[Alpha]

I got money on Oquendo

I'll give you 10/1

Feel bad for Fres with all the doping he has had to put up with. At what point does he start having issues with being cleared medically? (That will never happen tho, look at some of these guys that get the all clear). But imagine if Oquendo gets seriously hurt.

I like that Miller is staying active, that's all I can really say about this fight.

You're gonna lose a lot of money when Fres kayos him in the seventh with an uppercut

Sounds like Oquendo is out for this date. New opponent being sort for Miller.

Well shit

Guess I got lucky 😉