They're talking GGG-Brant now

[TitoFan]

GGG should either try to fight Charlo , Jacobs or Andrade . If none of these can be made , he should fucking retire.

Why? Maybe just playing devil's advocate but why? Other than having fought the undersized Brook, and his insistence of fighting Canelo again in VEGAS, I see nothing wrong with his record. Why does GGG have to fight one of three fighters of our choosing right now? It seems a different bar than we hold for other fighters. I wish other 160-pounders were held to the same strict conditions. Fight X, Y, or Z right NOW, or retire! Just seems rather double-standardish. Not trying to yank your chain, but GGG gets a lot of hate that should be reserved for those who REALLY do the blatant ducking.

Reasons have been given as to why GGG and Charlo haven't met yet. Charlo is a relative newcomer to middleweight, but the bandwagon wants GGG to fight him NOW. What's the huge hurry and why is GGG the chosen one? All I know is I'd like to see the same level of indignity poured on any other 160 who prances around picking and choosing.

[Primo Carnera]

GGG should either try to fight Charlo , Jacobs or Andrade . If none of these can be made , he should fucking retire.

Why? Maybe just playing devil's advocate but why? Other than having fought the undersized Brook, and his insistence of fighting Canelo again in VEGAS, I see nothing wrong with his record. Why does GGG have to fight one of three fighters of our choosing right now? It seems a different bar than we hold for other fighters. I wish other 160-pounders were held to the same strict conditions. Fight X, Y, or Z right NOW, or retire! Just seems rather double-standardish. Not trying to yank your chain, but GGG gets a lot of hate that should be reserved for those who REALLY do the blatant ducking.

Reasons have been given as to why GGG and Charlo haven't met yet. Charlo is a relative newcomer to middleweight, but the bandwagon wants GGG to fight him NOW. What's the huge hurry and why is GGG the chosen one? All I know is I'd like to see the same level of indignity poured on any other 160 who prances around picking and choosing.

I never said anything was wrong with his record. but at his age , only meaningful fights should happen. Brant is a champion, so OK that counts , no problem.
But after years of saying he wanted all the belts at MW before doing anything else , he backtracked completely and fought Canelo (who had fuck all belts) for the dollar signs lighting up in his eyes. that's ok , but when you sell your soul to the devil , don't go bleating about it afterwards when it doesn't go your way.
I had no problem with either decision personally, but he knew he wouldn't get a fair shake in Vegas and still signed up ......TWICE!
now they talk about "for the right fight he could go SMW, and that could be Smith." well when Ward wanted him , I was all on GGG's side because it didn't make sense giving up all that size to a class boxer like Ward. But Smith is fucking bigger, a lot bigger, and all of a sudden , they would think about it.
if that's not cherry picking, I don't know what is.
GGG may have earned big money in the last couple of years, but in my opinion , at a cost to his legacy. you can't have it all.
my big problem is that whoever he fights, whoever he beats, it's all with a view to getting Canelo again, and all I see there is another fight that delays the division moving forward. That should not be his priority.

[Primo Carnera]

btw, I don't hate GGG, far from it. But I am disappointed with the way his career has gone and the people around him.

[powerpuncher]

Not that I’m saying that GGG ducked fighters throughout his reign, but he has more legitimate fights to be made now since the division is getting deeper. That’s why I want him to fight the top tier guys instead of someone like Brant. I get that the fight makes some sense, but if he fights Brant, he will probably never fight Charlo, Andrade, BJS, or Jacobs (rematch) because of age.

[El Kabong]

btw, I don't hate GGG, far from it. But I am disappointed with the way his career has gone and the people around him.

There's guys for him to fight, he needs to forget making a legacy as a champion right now and focus on legacy as a fighter....PLENTY of people for him to fight, don't know if he'll buzzsaw through them though being older and more battleworn.