They're talking GGG-Brant now

[Primo Carnera]

Lmao HUH hate brigade out in full force today

GGG should either try to fight Charlo , Jacobs or Andrade . If none of these can be made , he should fucking retire.

Now thats just silly lmao

Ok. It’s silly, whatever. I later said Brant is now a champ, so that’s ok. But if it’s not Brant and all the above are silly, go on then, amuse me, who do you think he should fight? And who do you think is acceptable?

[Ron Swanson]

You haven’t caught on Primo? Whoever they suggest is acceptable. All we know for sure is it won’t be someone we want. It will just suddenly be good enough.

Watch,,,,,

Who here called for a Brant fight 3 weeks ago? Who had it in their top 5 most wanted? Who would even say it was in their top 10 most wanted?

Somehow it’s hate to want this guy to realize his potential. Boxing fans have lost their way. Take ODLH, I was a hater because I didn’t think he was as good as everyone said. Really f’n good but not as good as thought. But I recognize dude took on a who’s who in the sport. This guy that should be lauded by fans of the sport is called fishnets more often than Oscar. As if his undergarments are more important than consistently fighting the best. It’s completely warped. We boxing fans are broken

[El Kabong]

Somehow it’s hate to want this guy to realize his potential. Boxing fans have lost their way. Take ODLH, I was a hater because I didn’t think he was as good as everyone said. Really f’n good but not as good as thought. But I recognize dude took on a who’s who in the sport. This guy that should be lauded by fans of the sport is called fishnets more often than Oscar. As if his undergarments are more important than consistently fighting the best. It’s completely warped. We boxing fans are broken

As a promoter, the guy who was going to "change the game" he's been a real piece of shit.


I don't call the guy anything other than Oscar...I think he got shafted by the judges a couple times in his career in big fights, and as a promoter he's seen fit to job others in big fights.....kinda shitty.

[TitoFan]

Somehow it’s hate to want this guy to realize his potential. Boxing fans have lost their way. Take ODLH, I was a hater because I didn’t think he was as good as everyone said. Really f’n good but not as good as thought. But I recognize dude took on a who’s who in the sport. This guy that should be lauded by fans of the sport is called fishnets more often than Oscar. As if his undergarments are more important than consistently fighting the best. It’s completely warped. We boxing fans are broken

As a promoter, the guy who was going to "change the game" he's been a real piece of shit.


I don't call the guy anything other than Oscar...I think he got shafted by the judges a couple times in his career in big fights, and as a promoter he's seen fit to job others in big fights.....kinda shitty.

Nail on head right there. He was prematurely seen as the savior of boxing from the evil promoters King and Arum. New blood for the promoting part of the sport. And all he's done is drive it completely into the toilet. I could care less if he wears fishnets, mascara, has a fetish for kitchen utensils.... whatever. In his private life he can do what he chooses. But he's been a woeful disappointment as a promoter and all the promise to "change the game" has gone down the same toilet. F*ck 'im.

[Ron Swanson]

Somehow it’s hate to want this guy to realize his potential. Boxing fans have lost their way. Take ODLH, I was a hater because I didn’t think he was as good as everyone said. Really f’n good but not as good as thought. But I recognize dude took on a who’s who in the sport. This guy that should be lauded by fans of the sport is called fishnets more often than Oscar. As if his undergarments are more important than consistently fighting the best. It’s completely warped. We boxing fans are broken

As a promoter, the guy who was going to "change the game" he's been a real piece of shit.


I don't call the guy anything other than Oscar...I think he got shafted by the judges a couple times in his career in big fights, and as a promoter he's seen fit to job others in big fights.....kinda shitty.

Nail on head right there. He was prematurely seen as the savior of boxing from the evil promoters King and Arum. New blood for the promoting part of the sport. And all he's done is drive it completely into the toilet. I could care less if he wears fishnets, mascara, has a fetish for kitchen utensils.... whatever. In his private life he can do what he chooses. But he's been a woeful disappointment as a promoter and all the promise to "change the game" has gone down the same toilet. F*ck 'im.

Fair enough. I don’t even think about him as a promoter because there is nothing worthy of thinking about.

[Ron Swanson]

FTR in a vacuum I have no problem with a Brant fight. It’s when you look it it through the scope of years and years of not taking on the very best that it’s bothersome. And I don’t care to hear about who didn’t want to fight him. I only care about who he could fight and chose not to. And I only care about that because I’ve always thought very highly of him as a fighter. My issue with GGG is the endless run of uninspiring opponents. And how it is all explained away. Right now he can choose ANYONE. Right now he should choose the best opponents.

[TitoFan]

FTR in a vacuum I have no problem with a Brant fight. It’s when you look it it through the scope of years and years of not taking on the very best that it’s bothersome. And I don’t care to hear about who didn’t want to fight him. I only care about who he could fight and chose not to. And I only care about that because I’ve always thought very highly of him as a fighter. My issue with GGG is the endless run of uninspiring opponents. And how it is all explained away. Right now he can choose ANYONE. Right now he should choose the best opponents.

I have to keep reminding myself of that because your rants are pretty hard. (That's not a criticism, by the way). Because as hard as you rant about GGG not fighting certain people, I rarely see you rant about "the other guy" moving up to fight Fielding. So I tell myself it's because you don't think very highly of him as a fighter. If so, then we're on the same page because I certainly don't. Nor do I respect his own "years and years of not taking on the very best". Most of what you wrote I apply one-million-fold to "the other guy." In all honesty, I'd love to see GGG-Jacobs II, GGG-Andrade, or even GGG-Charlo, although like I said Charlo is a newcomer to the division.

[Fenster]

FTR in a vacuum I have no problem with a Brant fight. It’s when you look it it through the scope of years and years of not taking on the very best that it’s bothersome. And I don’t care to hear about who didn’t want to fight him. I only care about who he could fight and chose not to. And I only care about that because I’ve always thought very highly of him as a fighter. My issue with GGG is the endless run of uninspiring opponents. And how it is all explained away. Right now he can choose ANYONE. Right now he should choose the best opponents.

Jacobs
Canelo
Canelo

In three of his last four fights Golovkin has faced top three ranked middleweights, he's done exactly what you're claiming he hasn't.

Now we all know you don't hate Golovkin, don't worry, Ron, we know you DO NOT hate Golovkin, but it seems from the evidence above that even when Golovkin has faced the best guys available you claim he hasn't.

Unfortunately, Ron, there's not a serious boxing fan on earth who can make a case for Charlo being a bigger fight for Golovkin than those two. Swap either for Charlo and Golovkin's resume/status becomes weaker.

[Alpha]

I got one wouldn't be happy with a Brant fight, Murata brought big money and a title, which made sense for GGG and his family. Funny thing is, I'd see GGG making the same dollars for a Jacobs, Charlo, or Andrade fight, as he would fighting Brant. Saunders is suspended for 6 months.

I'd love to see him face Jacobs next, then face Canelo in Sep.

[powerpuncher]

I got one wouldn't be happy with a Brant fight, Murata brought big money and a title, which made sense for GGG and his family. Funny thing is, I'd see GGG making the same dollars for a Jacobs, Charlo, or Andrade fight, as he would fighting Brant. Saunders is suspended for 6 months.

I'd love to see him face Jacobs next, then face Canelo in Sep.

Here’s my problem with a third Canelo fight. Let’s say that GGG got the decision in both fights. Let’s pretend that the judges saw it like 85% of the spectators. Would facing Canelo a third time really be a fight you would be calling for?

That’s my problem. They were entertaining fights, but I would much rather see him fight another top middleweight that he hasn’t fought before or even Jacobs who has earned a rematch because of how close the first fight was. I don’t take bad judging into account when I rank who the best fighters are or who they should fight in the future

[Alpha]

I got one wouldn't be happy with a Brant fight, Murata brought big money and a title, which made sense for GGG and his family. Funny thing is, I'd see GGG making the same dollars for a Jacobs, Charlo, or Andrade fight, as he would fighting Brant. Saunders is suspended for 6 months.

I'd love to see him face Jacobs next, then face Canelo in Sep.

Here’s my problem with a third Canelo fight. Let’s say that GGG got the decision in both fights. Let’s pretend that the judges saw it like 85% of the spectators. Would facing Canelo a third time really be a fight you would be calling for?

That’s my problem. They were entertaining fights, but I would much rather see him fight another top middleweight that he hasn’t fought before or even Jacobs who has earned a rematch because of how close the first fight was. I don’t take bad judging into account when I rank who the best fighters are or who they should fight in the future

To your first question, I would like to see a 3rd fight, I wasn't really interested in the rematch as I thought GGG had won the first, but GGG was getting a good payday and the chance to correct the wrong, so I wasn't that fussed.

The 2nd fight was really good and I would like to see a repeat of that. GGG has slipped enough and Canelo has improved enough to where a 3rd fight is 50/50 and has the makings of another exciting gruelling battle. And again it would be another big payday for GGG and Canelo I guess is the 'champion'.

That's not saying that I wouldn't want see GGG fight Jacobs, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade or Brant, but Canelo 2 was more entertaining for me than GGG/Jacobs, Andrade and Brant fights don't strike me as barn burners.

It also depends on what network GGG goes with. ESPN could get him Brant, Showtime could get him Charlo, DAZN gets him closer to Canelo, and could get him Jacobs, Andrade etc.

I would also like to see some of these other guys fight each other as well.