They're talking GGG-Brant now

[Alpha]

I think 168 is just too big for GGG. Especially at this age. He will be giving up his power most likely which will be a huge disadvantage for him. I’m not that high on Ramirez, but I think he could turn it into a war and make GGG very uncomfortable.

I agree with this. People seem to forget GGG has fought at MW his entire career. Talking about Canelo going up to 168 vs. GGG going up to 168 is like apples and oranges. GGG is an older fighter. There's no sense in him at this stage of his career to look at anything at 168. Which is why talk years past of him meeting Ward at 168 was nonsensical to me. GGG would be destroyed at 168 by some of the fast, big punchers up there.

I think GGG would be competitive with anyone at 168 right now. And if he signed to fight Ramirez next, I'd pick GGG to knock him out. Obviously ESPN has been trying to interest him, so they may be trying to dangle Ramirez to entice him. If the $$$ are right why shouldn't he take Ramirez at 168?

[TitoFan]

I think 168 is just too big for GGG. Especially at this age. He will be giving up his power most likely which will be a huge disadvantage for him. I’m not that high on Ramirez, but I think he could turn it into a war and make GGG very uncomfortable.

I agree with this. People seem to forget GGG has fought at MW his entire career. Talking about Canelo going up to 168 vs. GGG going up to 168 is like apples and oranges. GGG is an older fighter. There's no sense in him at this stage of his career to look at anything at 168. Which is why talk years past of him meeting Ward at 168 was nonsensical to me. GGG would be destroyed at 168 by some of the fast, big punchers up there.

I think GGG would be competitive with anyone at 168 right now. And if he signed to fight Ramirez next, I'd pick GGG to knock him out. Obviously ESPN has been trying to interest him, so they may be trying to dangle Ramirez to entice him. If the $$$ are right why shouldn't he take Ramirez at 168?

You really think a fighter who spends his entire career at MW can just up and be successful against the best at 168? I think weight jumps are best done in a fighter's prime or close to it. If GGG were to be halfway successful at 168, I'd say it was due partly to the relative lack of talent at that weight versus other divisions. Not knocking GGG, as I'm a big fan.... and there's something to be said for a fighter staying at one weight. But moving to 168 now would seem just weird.

[Alpha]

I think 168 is just too big for GGG. Especially at this age. He will be giving up his power most likely which will be a huge disadvantage for him. I’m not that high on Ramirez, but I think he could turn it into a war and make GGG very uncomfortable.

I agree with this. People seem to forget GGG has fought at MW his entire career. Talking about Canelo going up to 168 vs. GGG going up to 168 is like apples and oranges. GGG is an older fighter. There's no sense in him at this stage of his career to look at anything at 168. Which is why talk years past of him meeting Ward at 168 was nonsensical to me. GGG would be destroyed at 168 by some of the fast, big punchers up there.

I think GGG would be competitive with anyone at 168 right now. And if he signed to fight Ramirez next, I'd pick GGG to knock him out. Obviously ESPN has been trying to interest him, so they may be trying to dangle Ramirez to entice him. If the $$$ are right why shouldn't he take Ramirez at 168?

You really think a fighter who spends his entire career at MW can just up and be successful against the best at 168? I think weight jumps are best done in a fighter's prime or close to it. If GGG were to be halfway successful at 168, I'd say it was due partly to the relative lack of talent at that weight versus other divisions. Not knocking GGG, as I'm a big fan.... and there's something to be said for a fighter staying at one weight. But moving to 168 now would seem just weird.

Most fighters these days tend to move up as they age. Don't see why it would be such a huge difference for GGG. I'm not saying he should, or that a Ramirez fight is a fight I'd be interested in, just that it's another option on the table for GGG. I think he needs to go with DAZN, they now have all the 160 titles.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

I think 168 is just too big for GGG. Especially at this age. He will be giving up his power most likely which will be a huge disadvantage for him. I’m not that high on Ramirez, but I think he could turn it into a war and make GGG very uncomfortable.

I agree with this. People seem to forget GGG has fought at MW his entire career. Talking about Canelo going up to 168 vs. GGG going up to 168 is like apples and oranges. GGG is an older fighter. There's no sense in him at this stage of his career to look at anything at 168. Which is why talk years past of him meeting Ward at 168 was nonsensical to me. GGG would be destroyed at 168 by some of the fast, big punchers up there.

I think GGG would be competitive with anyone at 168 right now. And if he signed to fight Ramirez next, I'd pick GGG to knock him out. Obviously ESPN has been trying to interest him, so they may be trying to dangle Ramirez to entice him. If the $$$ are right why shouldn't he take Ramirez at 168?

You really think a fighter who spends his entire career at MW can just up and be successful against the best at 168? I think weight jumps are best done in a fighter's prime or close to it. If GGG were to be halfway successful at 168, I'd say it was due partly to the relative lack of talent at that weight versus other divisions. Not knocking GGG, as I'm a big fan.... and there's something to be said for a fighter staying at one weight. But moving to 168 now would seem just weird.

Most fighters these days tend to move up as they age. Don't see why it would be such a huge difference for GGG. I'm not saying he should, or that a Ramirez fight is a fight I'd be interested in, just that it's another option on the table for GGG. I think he needs to go with DAZN, they now have all the 160 titles.

Golovkins never really been a big middleweight though, has he?

[Alpha]

I think 168 is just too big for GGG. Especially at this age. He will be giving up his power most likely which will be a huge disadvantage for him. I’m not that high on Ramirez, but I think he could turn it into a war and make GGG very uncomfortable.

I agree with this. People seem to forget GGG has fought at MW his entire career. Talking about Canelo going up to 168 vs. GGG going up to 168 is like apples and oranges. GGG is an older fighter. There's no sense in him at this stage of his career to look at anything at 168. Which is why talk years past of him meeting Ward at 168 was nonsensical to me. GGG would be destroyed at 168 by some of the fast, big punchers up there.

I think GGG would be competitive with anyone at 168 right now. And if he signed to fight Ramirez next, I'd pick GGG to knock him out. Obviously ESPN has been trying to interest him, so they may be trying to dangle Ramirez to entice him. If the $$$ are right why shouldn't he take Ramirez at 168?

You really think a fighter who spends his entire career at MW can just up and be successful against the best at 168? I think weight jumps are best done in a fighter's prime or close to it. If GGG were to be halfway successful at 168, I'd say it was due partly to the relative lack of talent at that weight versus other divisions. Not knocking GGG, as I'm a big fan.... and there's something to be said for a fighter staying at one weight. But moving to 168 now would seem just weird.

Most fighters these days tend to move up as they age. Don't see why it would be such a huge difference for GGG. I'm not saying he should, or that a Ramirez fight is a fight I'd be interested in, just that it's another option on the table for GGG. I think he needs to go with DAZN, they now have all the 160 titles.

Golovkins never really been a big middleweight though, has he?

No he hasn't, but I think he's more than capable of beating Ramirez.