Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next

[Majesty]

Thats your opinion. I don't think thats so

Name some other reasons why you would PRICE YOURSELF OUT?

Make more money

And looking at his career right now I wouldn't say he's made bad choices would you?

Certainlty not. Ducking Calzaghe was a wise move.

he didn't duck Calzaghe.

Something Joe has never done but I'll get to my point in a minute

Hang on. What do you mean something Joe has never done? Duck anyone? I make you right.

No.. have two megafights against two lights of your generation is something Joe has never done.

Ok here's my point. Warren COULD have said yes to Hopkins and then we'd have a fight. And there would be a fight. So even if Hopkins made it pricy he would have fought Calzaghe if 'yes' was said. Is that correct?

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You didn't answer my question

And you make comparisons on how much money Hopkins made with the turned down offer, how many did Joe make? And who did he fight after that?

He fought people that didn't duck him.

he fought nobodies until Lacy who wasn't ready for Joe to begin with. I've looked at his record and don't recognize any name in their prime. I recognized the name Chris Eubank but that seemed way outside of his prime.

My point is that after that, Hopkins made better choices and made more money then Calzaghe, who if he is so enameured in his own porential legacy he would have tried to make those same decisions as well.

Exactly! If he didn't duck Calzaghe he wouldn't of made that lovely easy Oscar money. Why do you think Calzaghe has been chasing Hopkins?

Calzaghe was chasing Sven Ottke to my knowledge more so then he was chasing Hopkins. And you didn't answer my question that "if he is so enameured in his own porential legacy he would have tried to make those same decisions as well" All you said was thats why he was chasing Hopkins, my question to you is why didn't he chase anyone else? or unify the titles at 168 and make a name for himself? Why did he just stick to his WBO title and never once try to unify?

So the flak Joe takes for not fighting the best I'm not very convinced that Hopkins ducked him in any way, and I don't see Joe trying to fight anyone else "great" around that time, do you? He said he'd gladly come to the states to fight hopkins ok. This fight falls through, Hopkisn goes on his legacy. Why didn't Calzaghe COME to the states and make a name for himself and some noise to actually bring attention to him calling out Hopkins? Make it a popular fight where the media is actually clamoring for it. Because of that ONE article you found it doesn't convince me in the least that anyoen would have payed much attention to it over here. The jury was still out on Calzaghe until that Lacy victory and Calzaghe could have gotten that recognition if he had fought fighters to make a name for himself over here. Like I said..if he was so desperate for the fight then after that fall through why didn't he come to the states and make some noise to marit a fight with him and Hopkins? Why did he stay overseas and only make noise there? How many times was he on Showtime after that? How many times was Hopkins on HBO? Who was seen more by a world audience?

OK Just answer me this - What possible reason could there be for Hopkins to turn down a $3 million dollar career highest pay day - to fight a nobody like Calzaghe - and instead fight such illustrious names like Hakkar and Joppy for $300,000 DOLLARS!?!?!

Only if you answer me why Calzaghe didn't go on to unify the titles and fight other people to merit a match with him and Hopkins in which they BOTH could have made money.

But I'm going to be getting a real look at Joe this Saturday so I can critique him

Good. Maybe you'll see why Hopkins ducked him.

I didn't see anything special. He's inconsistant and didnt even look half as good as Lacy made him look. I told you I would watch on Saturday to really get a good look at Calzaghe and he looked like a Hamed wannabe until he got popped in the face and made to bleed. If thats Calzaghe then I don't know what the big deal was. He didn't look half as good as Lacy made him look.

Then I'll see how consistant he is

130-2 Amateur record, 41-0 longest reigning current world champion. I'd say he's pretty consistant

He's not consistant everytime he fights level of opposition, he fights down to the level of his opponent. Thats what will always seperate him from the likes of Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins who would fight there level in every fight of their prime whether it was Joe Below or Ninja Turtle. After all that talk Joe was a big letdown imo. I can't seem to look as good as he did against Lacy consistantly. Or maybe that has something to do with the opponent and not Joe, actually it has a lot to do with Joe. Either way, Joe didn't impress me in the least this weekend and can't seem to avoid straight right hands, is open in between those flurries and brings his hands back down. Lacy made him look like a world beater because he didn't do anything about it, but it seems that Joe aint as good as Lacy made him look to be, otherwise I would expect him to dominate like that everytime out, and he'll never be in Hopkins or Roy Jones' league until he has that consistancy imo.