So compared to past U.S. heavyweights... Wilder's not very popular in the U.S. Why?

[Spicoli]

As has been stated accurately location and venue has so much to do with it. But one word that keeps bouncing around my head is exposure. To the literal of tv dates and early consistent push and promotion, but also to the scrutiny and reveals that can come with exposure itself and the poor level of Wilders road kill that often left the announcers..if their were any..stating something about 'level of competition and work in process' etc. Add in obvious flaws early and the erratic over caffeinated caveman style and fans saw the holes and were not so easy to buy in or call Wilder the goods. Grab any previous American heavy from last the division peaked here..Holyfield to Bowe to Morrison to others like even Grant or a Larry Donald. All came up on bigger well known National platforms that were known weekly 'dates' for fight fans. It was regular and a given. From USA Tuesday night fights to ESPN to all the big 3 weekend boxing shows on ABC NBC or CBS. They came up gaining fans before they reached a major premier network. Wilder truth be told did not main event on hbo or Showtime until 7+ yrs in and prior to that he was buried on undercards. And that was also his last time in Vegas. His commercial tv spots were absolutely terrible and spotty at best being shown on Telefutura or a low advertised Fox1, again on undercards because the comp was iffy and it was known how raw he was. Networks want to feature competitive action in top positions..not predicatble crude muggings. I mean the man and his keepers just didn't seem to 'package' what was a big brash Olympic medalists and his pro debut took place literally in a bingo club with zero local or tv coverage. Even Shannon Briggs got National airtime and had the mentoring of Teddy Atlas as well as a writer-promoter yelling his praises in front of every camera and filling the New York Times with clip after clip on him. In fairness Briggs got his hbo date early and promptly imploded but he got to the dance. You hone and seed the base and grow outward. City to State to Country. Wilder has in a way actually done it backwards. What he sees as a problem or hassle is there to greatly benefit him and by that I mean AJ himself. Now that in itself has over shadowed the big picture at heavyweight but Wilder should have latched onto that shine and made it his own, attended the live fight where he was invited to be on the mic and aka in the face of AJ. Not talking about riding his coattails but you stake your claim. Likewise expand your base and travel. Instead he sort of settled on twitter wars, beating up mascots while pretending to understand Spanish and settled on maybe 4,5 recent spots in Alabama until Ortiz in Barclays.

And yelling incoherently does not count as great self promotion . Wilder has come a long way and I fully want him to refine and continue to improve but he doesn't come off like the brightest bulb on the string of lights honestly. But he now has the opportunity to combine brutal power, pop and top names better comp in major events that have been absent for so long. His turn to act like he's been in the room before.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

Wilder absolutely decimates Joshua if they meet.

Which is why Joshua wants nothing to do with him.

If Wilder can’t take Fury’s head off, he doesn’t deserve to be a champion . If Joshua gets “decimated” by Wilder, then Joshua doesn’t deserve to be a champion. If he can get caught by a guy 2 stone lighter with a windmill that can be seen from outer space, he doesn’t deserve to be a champion.
Tell me the last time Wilder KO’d someone where he didn’t
A. Hit them with a windmill
B. Throw about 10 Windmills
C. Took a 5 yard run up.
Now if you or I did one of the above, we would probably knock someone out ffs. That’s not Boxing.
To me, power is when you throw an uppercut for example with hardly any swing and knock someone out. Like Mike Tyson did. Now that is power.
If the most powerful and effective way to Box was to swing like acwhirling dervish doing an impression of a giant Bambi on ice, then everyone would box like that. But it’s not, is it?
The yanks by and large don’t get sucked in by hype, they only go overboard about quality fighters. That is why Wilder hasn’t touched the hearts of the public.

Your hatred for Wilder is clouding your judgement friend

I mean you actually think his punching power is a myth

I will admit that Wilder isn't the most technically skilled boxer in the division, but you're sipping on the haterade so hard that it's removing you from reality.

And also I find it funny that you bring up Tyson in the conversation without realizing the similarities in opposition.

And Fury absolutely schools Joshua as well. Not sure why you're looking down on him.

[Primo Carnera]

Wilder absolutely decimates Joshua if they meet.

Which is why Joshua wants nothing to do with him.

If Wilder can’t take Fury’s head off, he doesn’t deserve to be a champion . If Joshua gets “decimated” by Wilder, then Joshua doesn’t deserve to be a champion. If he can get caught by a guy 2 stone lighter with a windmill that can be seen from outer space, he doesn’t deserve to be a champion.
Tell me the last time Wilder KO’d someone where he didn’t
A. Hit them with a windmill
B. Throw about 10 Windmills
C. Took a 5 yard run up.
Now if you or I did one of the above, we would probably knock someone out ffs. That’s not Boxing.
To me, power is when you throw an uppercut for example with hardly any swing and knock someone out. Like Mike Tyson did. Now that is power.
If the most powerful and effective way to Box was to swing like acwhirling dervish doing an impression of a giant Bambi on ice, then everyone would box like that. But it’s not, is it?
The yanks by and large don’t get sucked in by hype, they only go overboard about quality fighters. That is why Wilder hasn’t touched the hearts of the public.

Your hatred for Wilder is clouding your judgement friend

I mean you actually think his punching power is a myth

I will admit that Wilder isn't the most technically skilled boxer in the division, but you're sipping on the haterade so hard that it's removing you from reality.

And also I find it funny that you bring up Tyson in the conversation without realizing the similarities in opposition.

And Fury absolutely schools Joshua as well. Not sure why you're looking down on him.

“Your hatred for Wilder is clouding your judgement friend”

I think hate is a very emotive word used ignorantly sometimes. I’m not sure if I Hate anybody. Certainly not sure that there are very few people in the World I could hate without ever meeting or speaking to them.
I used to quite like Wilder as a person, despite never really rating him as a Boxer. But I strongly dislike him now because of his disgusting comments about wanting to kill someone in the ring and how he “wants one on his record.”

“I mean you actually think his punching power is a myth”

Yes. In the sense that anyone can severely damage someone if they get the opportunity to swing wildly or take a run up. Fuck me , he even had to take a run up to floor that fucking mascot!

“I will admit that Wilder isn't the most technically skilled boxer in the division, but you're sipping on the haterade so hard that it's removing you from reality.”

Yeah, nice one!

“And also I find it funny that you bring up Tyson in the conversation without realizing the similarities in opposition.”

Come on mate, don’t embarrass yourself. we won’t go into there early fights unless you want me to, but Mike Tyson’s opponents couldn’t possibly have been worse than Wilder’s. So we’ll go from when Tyson won the title in his 28th fight to Wilder’s opponents from 28th for 10 fights.
TYSON V WILDER
BERBICK. V AUDLEY HARRISON
BONECRUSHER SMITH V LIAKHOVICH
PINKLON THOMAS. V FIRTHA
TUCKER. V MALIK SCOTT
TYRELL BIGGS. V JASON GAVERN
LARRY HOLMES. V BERMANE STIVERNE
TONY TUBBS. V ERIC MOLINA
MICHAEL SPINKS. V DUHAUPAS
BRUNO. V SZPILIKA
CARL WILLIAMS. V ARREOLA

it’s comments like this that make me think that Brock asked to use your profile so he could post when his own profile gets banned. I can’t find another reason for it.

“And Fury absolutely schools Joshua as well. Not sure why you're looking down on him.”

Fury may beat Wilder, and he may school Joshua ....... but if he does , that would prove what a pile of shit they both are. Can’t see it myself, but you never know.
Fury beat Klitschko and that can never be taken away from him. But in reality , one guy averaged 7 punches a round and one 4 punches a round.
Apart from that , who has Fury EVER fought and what has he EVER done?
Add to that, that he’s not had a seriou fight for over 3 years , so if Fury does beat them, then either he’s the greatest HW that has ever lived , or they are seriously below par champions in comparison to previous champions.
I don’t think he’s the greatest HW That has ever lived , so as our transatlantic cousins say, go figure!