NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[p4pking]

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

[walrus]

It is strange when hear all this mars stuff when at this time we couldn’t land on the moon. I do beleive we landed on the moon and don’t consider myself a nutter for thinking so. Who knows those, one of these billionaires, be it bezos, or musk may pull it off. Fifty years seems optimistic

[p4pking]

It is strange when hear all this mars stuff when at this time we couldn’t land on the moon. I do beleive we landed on the moon and don’t consider myself a nutter for thinking so. Who knows those, one of these billionaires, be it bezos, or musk may pull it off. Fifty years seems optimistic

Its the only reason I don’t consider you a nutter.

[Alpha]

If I told you I could fly, would you want me to prove it?

Would you accept an image or video of me doing it? Or would you want it done in front of you?

Most would say, done in front of them so the image or video couldn't be altered, while blindly following what they have been told/ taught by so called scientists with bogus theories. They don't base there knowledge on their own experience, only what someone else has told them.

Have a look at the official photo of the shuttle landing on the moon. Looks great doesn't it, until you asked "Who took the picture?" It's shot from the moon. What's the big deal about being the first man on the moon, when the camera crew were already set up first?

This stuff is obvious to anyone really wanting to challenge what they have been told and "learned" and have a conversation about what is really going on, based on their own logic and facts they can actually see in front of them.

[Alpha]

Then the next questions are going to be:

Why? Why would they lie?

And

How could they keep it a secret?

If you want to believe we landed on the moon , that's awesome, you are entitled to your own beliefs, but to refuse to look at any credible evidence before dismissing it is just ignorant. It can be hard, trust me I know, I was a slave all my life, and the funny thing is no one cares, we all just carry on blindly.

Remember when Pluto was a planet?

Yea turns out after 500 odd years they were wrong, it ain't a planet, sorry. But everything else we tell you is right tho. Trust us.

[Freedom]

Men DID walk on the moon.

The truth is, the USA was a much richer country back in those days and could afford the Apollo Space Program. But the Americans have never gone back, even with improving technology, due to the cost.

The USA has declined economically over the past 50 years. There was a time when an American man could support a wife and children, and own a house and a car, with an average income. But that's not possible nowadays.

Cultural Marxism has played a major role in this decline. Many people became less willing to work hard, instead spending more of their physical and mental energy on the many distractions. And there's been a lot of wasteful spending, such as donations of several BILLIONS of dollars per year to Israel (despite it already being a rich country) and billions more to Israel's neighbors such as Egypt and Jordan in order to "buy" peace. Also wasteful and unnecessary wars (Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan, etc) have cost the American taxpayers far, far more than was ever spent on the Space Program.

[Alpha]

Sorry Freedom, I don't think they did, and no one has been back since, and they lost all the data etc.

[Freedom]

Because there is so much fake news nowadays, I can understand why someone would be sceptical about the moon landings.

But I'm someone who was alive and watching TV when Armstrong took his historic step. Back in those days, most of the people who ran the news media had some honour and integrity, and most reporters were honest.

[palmerq]

I'm pretty sure they took away Louis Armstrong's seven moon landings after he admitted taking drugs to get there.

[Alpha]

Because there is so much fake news nowadays, I can understand why someone would be sceptical about the moon landings.

But I'm someone who was alive and watching TV when Armstrong took his historic step. Back in those days, most of the people who ran the news media had some honour and integrity, and most reporters were honest.

So you believe it because you watched it on TV? And you believe the media was honest, who also watched it on TV.

Back when I believed the moon landings were real, I wasn't lying either, it was just my belief on what I had seen, been told or taught.

[Primo Carnera]

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

[Alpha]

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

That's one way to keep people quiet, look at what happened to Gus Grissom.

[Alpha]

I think it's better to start a thread on it, as some people aren't ready or don't won't to have what they have been told challenged. And it's better to get their permission to have a discussion that may challenge some of the things they have been told/ taught.

[p4pking]

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

[Alpha]

I’m not well versed on this, but why would the moon be a holiday destination? It would require rigorous, immense training to reach a place that is uninhabitable. Has there ever been an Astroanaut to come out and say nobody landed there? It strikes me they might have a slightly better perspective.

because there are people in life that want to do something that others haven’t done, go to places that others haven’t been to.
My point is , and I think you probably know, in the last 50 years, look at the advances in technology. Look at TV’s or Computers for example compared to 50 years ago.
So if humans landed on the Moon over 50 years , surely an intelligent person would question why it isn’t easier or more commonplace nowadays, don’t you think?
As for Astronauts not saying “we never went to the Moon,” well of course they ain’t gonna say that.
They would be ridiculed, they would probably be murdered , and besides, they have had a beautiful life dining out on this myth.

I believe everyone who in your mind “allegedly” landed on the moon is dead anyways? You don’t think there would be a deathbed confession?

Just because there is no deathbed confession, is not evidence that they went to the moon.