NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[Freedom]

Men DID walk on the moon.

The truth is, the USA was a much richer country back in those days and could afford the Apollo Space Program. But the Americans have never gone back, even with improving technology, due to the cost.

The USA has declined economically over the past 50 years. There was a time when an American man could support a wife and children, and own a house and a car, with an average income. But that's not possible nowadays.

Cultural Marxism has played a major role in this decline. Many people became less willing to work hard, instead spending more of their physical and mental energy on the many distractions. And there's been a lot of wasteful spending, such as donations of several BILLIONS of dollars per year to Israel (despite it already being a rich country) and billions more to Israel's neighbors such as Egypt and Jordan in order to "buy" peace. Also wasteful and unnecessary wars (Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afghanistan, etc) have cost the American taxpayers far, far more than was ever spent on the Space Program.

[Alpha]

Sorry Freedom, I don't think they did, and no one has been back since, and they lost all the data etc.

[p4pking]

You just shot me to the moon, big daddy!

[Alpha]

We all think we are intelligent and no one could lie to us without us knowing, it's hard to do but you need to drop the ego and accepting they have been lying to us about everything.

[p4pking]

What’s the point, though?

[Alpha]

What’s the point, though?

There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

[Gandalf]

Interesting thread. It's a bit like believing in God too isn't it. There is no evidence of supernatural beings but most people believe in some way. It is interesting. Not knocking the religious by the way as I think Jesus sounded cool, I just do not get the God bit.

[walrus]

What’s the point, though?

There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

No matter what Apollo 13 is a great movie