NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[walrus]

What’s the point, though?

There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

No matter what Apollo 13 is a great movie

[Alpha]

What’s the point, though?

There it is, the why question.

Look at it like a crime, if you have a murder do you not investigate the crime because you have no motive? No you would investigate the clues right?

You could look at it like that, or you could take responsibility for letting them take authority over you. It's up to each individual to ask why have I been deceived? And you have to be honest with yourself, we have all been deceived at some point, it's so easy to do. I used to believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth ferry etc.

No matter what Apollo 13 is a great movie

Just touching on movies, we have been programmed to think what space looks like, find all the space movies, books and other media that was made in the early 1950s prior to 1969, before we actually ever went to the moon. It all looks uncannily like how they portray space and the moon. The spacesuits, ships etc.

[Alpha]

Interesting thread. It's a bit like believing in God too isn't it. There is no evidence of supernatural beings but most people believe in some way. It is interesting. Not knocking the religious by the way as I think Jesus sounded cool, I just do not get the God bit.

I don't believe in the god of the bible or Jesus, but I believe in a creator over the bullsh-t that is evolution.

[p4pking]

Oh boy...

[Alpha]

Oh boy...

Not ready to challenge what you have been told with logical thought?

[p4pking]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

[Alpha]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.