NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[Alpha]

Interesting thread. It's a bit like believing in God too isn't it. There is no evidence of supernatural beings but most people believe in some way. It is interesting. Not knocking the religious by the way as I think Jesus sounded cool, I just do not get the God bit.

I don't believe in the god of the bible or Jesus, but I believe in a creator over the bullsh-t that is evolution.

[p4pking]

Oh boy...

[Alpha]

Oh boy...

Not ready to challenge what you have been told with logical thought?

[p4pking]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

[Alpha]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

[Master]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

No harm in questioning ideas but you are mixing a lot of things to justify your scepticism. Pluto has been reclassified, it could get be labelled a planet again. Yes evolution is just a theory and there are gaps but it is better than creationism.

[walrus]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

No harm in questioning ideas but you are mixing a lot of things to justify your scepticism. Pluto has been reclassified, it could get be labelled a planet again. Yes evolution is just a theory and there are gaps but it is better than creationism.

better than creationism?

[Alpha]

Logical is accepting what the overwhelming majority of people who have dedicated their lives to studying a field tend agree on, rather than spending ten minutes reading something on the Internet and then thinking you're an authority.

I never claimed that I am an authority, I'm just asking that people think for themselves. Rather than being told what to believe.

Just because the majority believe something doesn't prove that it's correct. I guess your talking evolution right? There is a reason it's called a theory.

Wouldn't you rather come to a conclusion based on your own experiences? Stuff you can see and do and explain in front of you? Like I said, all of us have been deceived at some point. All my friends believed there was Santa when I was a kid, even my kids did, were we lying? No, but the majority of us believed it, so does that make it right?

I also mentioned that we were told Pluto was a planet for around 500 years. Turns out that's wrong. It ain't a planet. But we were told it was, so we believed it.

At what point do you start questioning someone, after they had been wrong or lied to you over and over? Do you believe Oswald killed Kennedy alone? 9/11? The reasons the give for the start of wars?

The question you have to ask yourself firstly is, do I believe the government? And if you don't then you need to ask why you believe some stuff they tell you and not other stuff.

From my experience, once someone lies to me, or is wrong about something they confessed was correct, then I find it hard to take what they tell me next time as fact.

No harm in questioning ideas but you are mixing a lot of things to justify your scepticism. Pluto has been reclassified, it could get be labelled a planet again. Yes evolution is just a theory and there are gaps but it is better than creationism.

Is it?

I was using Pluto as an example that just because the majority believed (were told/ taught) that there were 9 planets for roughly 500 years, doesn't mean it was right.

I am happy to debate this with anyone here, I promise to be respectful, but ask the same in return. You don't have to believe anything I say, all I ask is that you think for yourself.

Can I also say that P4Pking is making an assumption when saying I spent 10 minutes reading something. I was also a zombie to the propaganda that we are brainwashed with from the time we are born from TV, movies and other media, schools etc, up until about 3 years ago. It can be one of the hardest things to question this and be honest with yourself. But wouldn't you rather decide something based on what you can see and do in front of you, rather than be told what to believe?

Serious question for anyone interested in challenging themselves, anyone familiar with explosives in any way? Worked in construction, or demolition, or even played with fireworks at some point in time?