NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[walrus]

A type of evolution does not rule out intelligent design but there are numerous things to think about. Here is a quote from the science dude

It is important to note that the information written on DNA molecules is not produced by any known natural interaction of matter. Matter and molecules have no innate intelligence, allowing self organization into codes. There are no know n physical laws which give molecules a natural tendency to arrange themselves into such coded structures.

[Alpha]

I just like to give people examples where they can use their common sense.

I have a challenge that no one will be able to complete, and by not being able to complete this challenge should make anyone question what they have been told. But like I said, people would rather bury their head in the sand, ignorance is bliss.

[Fenster]

Incidentally the fake moon landings conspiracy only went ballistic after the 70s movie Capricorn One was released - Mars landing filmed in a studio, Astronauts hunted down and killed. That was some scary shit when I was a kid, the idea everything you've been sold is a lie.

Obviously these days with the internet they've become more popular than ever. However, there's as many vids/articles debunking the so-called fakery as there are claims these days.

It's not a coincidence that people most likely to believe in global/major conspiracies also believe in a supernatural creator. Teleological thinking or something, it's called.

[walrus]

Yes we get lied to but the government is terrible at keeping secrets. If a Oval Office blow job cant be kept down low, I don’t think a numerous fake moon landings could be kept hush. It wouldn’t be just the astronauts who would need to keep quiet.

[Alpha]

Incidentally the fake moon landings conspiracy only went ballistic after the 70s movie Capricorn One was released - Mars landing filmed in a studio, Astronauts hunted down and killed. That was some scary shit when I was a kid, the idea everything you've been sold is a lie.

Obviously these days with the internet they've become more popular than ever. However, there's as many vids/articles debunking the so-called fakery as there are claims these days.

It's not a coincidence that people most likely to believe in global/major conspiracies also believe in a supernatural creator. Teleological thinking or something, it's called.

But when you tell the truth the story is always the same, it doesn't change. When you lie, to have to keep changing the story to keep up with the lie.

Evolution is a joke. Instead of just taking their side of the story think about it logically for a second. What do explosions do? Destroy stuff right? But not this big bang explosion, this explosion does something your logic tells you doesn't happen, it creates something.

Right at the beginning and there's already a problem.

[Alpha]

Let's look at the moon landing logically. Say 2 of us were in a race to location fit example, one of us is the States the other Russia. Now your team has invested a lot of tax payers money in helping to you to win the race. And my team has invested a lot of tax payers money helping me to win the race. Now the States wins the race, but instead of at least finishing the race and making all that money at least mean something, Russia just quits?

[Alpha]

Yes we get lied to but the government is terrible at keeping secrets. If a Oval Office blow job cant be kept down low, I don’t think a numerous fake moon landings could be kept hush. It wouldn’t be just the astronauts who would need to keep quiet.

Ok but how much does NASA get a day, 20 - 50 mil a day. I can do a lot with 50 mil. And if I'm hiring the stuff , wouldn't it make sense for me to hire people I can control, people I have dirt on? You don't think it's possible for them to threaten your friends and family? How much is a hitman roughly?

If anyone has looked into any pedophile ring stuff, there are reports that some abusers were forced into these acts, recorded, as blackmail so they could speak out for fear of their dirt coming out.

And look at Grissom and Co., if anyone thinks they are untouchable just check out JFK to see you're not.

[Fenster]

Yes we get lied to but the government is terrible at keeping secrets. If a Oval Office blow job cant be kept down low, I don’t think a numerous fake moon landings could be kept hush. It wouldn’t be just the astronauts who would need to keep quiet.

Watching one of those vids which debunk the conspiracy theorists, there would have been hundreds of thousands murdered to cover it up.

[Gandalf]

I believe that evolution is real as there is just too much evidence with much of it compiled in Dawkins 'The Greatest Show on Earth'. There is just far too much evidence to refute IMO. Now could aliens have planted the seeds of life like in Prometheus? Possibly, but we have no evidence for that, so I would just go with the evidence that exists as it is all that we have. Life started and then it evolved and I am comfortable with that until something comes along to demolish it. That is what I like about science is that it is theory and open to change providing something more concrete comes along to throw it onto a new path. But the theory of evolution does fit into place quite perfectly.

Do you have a better suggestion than evolution, Alpha?

[Gandalf]

I do not know enough about moon landings to have a proper view, but I should know more about space travel and this kind of thing. It is my next topic for research after my next few books.

[walrus]

Yes we get lied to but the government is terrible at keeping secrets. If a Oval Office blow job cant be kept down low, I don’t think a numerous fake moon landings could be kept hush. It wouldn’t be just the astronauts who would need to keep quiet.

Ok but how much does NASA get a day, 20 - 50 mil a day. I can do a lot with 50 mil. And if I'm hiring the stuff , wouldn't it make sense for me to hire people I can control, people I have dirt on? You don't think it's possible for them to threaten your friends and family? How much is a hitman roughly?

If anyone has looked into any pedophile ring stuff, there are reports that some abusers were forced into these acts, recorded, as blackmail so they could speak out for fear of their dirt coming out.

And look at Grissom and Co., if anyone thinks they are untouchable just check out JFK to see you're not.

anything can be twisted and turned at anytime in these theories. People who beleive them can explain any differing point of view, that’s what makes them interesting. That 9-11 video covers everything you can think off. Like Lou Reed said, you can’t beleive everything you read and nothing that you see.

[Alpha]

I believe that evolution is real as there is just too much evidence with much of it compiled in Dawkins 'The Greatest Show on Earth'. There is just far too much evidence to refute IMO. Now could aliens have planted the seeds of life like in Prometheus? Possibly, but we have no evidence for that, so I would just go with the evidence that exists as it is all that we have. Life started and then it evolved and I am comfortable with that until something comes along to demolish it. That is what I like about science is that it is theory and open to change providing something more concrete comes along to throw it onto a new path. But the theory of evolution does fit into place quite perfectly.

Do you have a better suggestion than evolution, Alpha?

My belief is that we were created by something, everything is to perfect to have just started randomly from nothing.

Evolution is so basic when you look at it.

So out of this explosion, that is unlike every other explosion you have had experience around, this explosion creates something. Then out of that, for no reason life started, and out of that we got fish, and then the fish came onto land, but unlike every fish you have ever had experience with, these ones change their gills into lungs, really? Most fish die in a couple of minutes from my experience, but lets let that slide. Then they somehow mutated to apes, and then to us. The glaring whole right there is, where are all these in between mutations? There should be millions of them everywhere.

Also there has never been macro mutations.

Micro mutations is mutations in a species over a length of time. Macro mutations is one species mutating into another species. Can't happen. All Darwin's theory was written before any proof on these mutations was discovered. Hence his 'theory'.

[Gandalf]

It takes about 8 and a half hours but here it is. You will miss all the diagrams, but it is a great book and Dawkins has a very nice voice.

[Alpha]

Yes we get lied to but the government is terrible at keeping secrets. If a Oval Office blow job cant be kept down low, I don’t think a numerous fake moon landings could be kept hush. It wouldn’t be just the astronauts who would need to keep quiet.

Ok but how much does NASA get a day, 20 - 50 mil a day. I can do a lot with 50 mil. And if I'm hiring the stuff , wouldn't it make sense for me to hire people I can control, people I have dirt on? You don't think it's possible for them to threaten your friends and family? How much is a hitman roughly?

If anyone has looked into any pedophile ring stuff, there are reports that some abusers were forced into these acts, recorded, as blackmail so they could speak out for fear of their dirt coming out.

And look at Grissom and Co., if anyone thinks they are untouchable just check out JFK to see you're not.

anything can be twisted and turned at anytime in these theories. People who beleive them can explain any differing point of view, that’s what makes them interesting. That 9-11 video covers everything you can think off. Like Lou Reed said, you can’t beleive everything you read and nothing that you see.

Exactly, so wouldn't it be better to make your mind up on thinking about things logically, rather than accepting fake pictures and video as evidence?

Obvious questions you should ask yourself:

Why has no one ever gone back?
The Van Allen belts, how could the actornauts survive them. When asked about them a actornaut said he doesn't think they were discovered then. So not discovering something means that the miles of radiation won't kill you?
Why have they lost or taped over all the data? It's a pretty historic event for mankind, but obviously not important enough.
Why would they keep giving you fake footage from the ISS or space walks?

[Gandalf]

Here is part 2. I would read the book as it is too much information to listen to.