Fury v Wilder - Staples Center, Los Angeles 1/12/18

**Spicoli** · 12-03-2018 02:35 AM

Wilders lack of preparation and early career adversity finally shows through. Fury just coached him through the interviews in agreeing they're the best two ffs. It's a win win win for Fury and Wilder will never..imo..reach the stage he was on yesterday. Sad really

**TitoFan** · 12-03-2018 02:40 AM

I think we're being overly hard on Wilder. Sure, some of us predicted a Wilder KO win..... but it's not like the guy's done or unfixable. He had never faced a bigger man with a longer reach. He had never faced someone with such an unorthodox style as Fury. Yes, he became wild at times... but he put Fury on the canvas TWICE. The second time with a beautiful one-two combination. He needs to continue facing stiffer opposition and continue to work on his shortcomings. He's a great athlete, so that's not a stretch. A good trainer will continue to pound on the wide right hands, because Wilder is capable of throwing a straight one.

TBH, right now I rate both Wilder and Fury more than Joshua, just because of their willingness to face each other, and they did put on a good show. I for one would love to see it again.

**Mark TKO** · 12-03-2018 02:42 AM

Joshua should take wilder on now. I can see Fury taking some time out.

**KickMuck** · 12-03-2018 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Joshua should take wilder on now. I can see Fury taking some time out.

**Freedom** · 12-03-2018 02:57 AM

Fury if he stays focused will be back to his best fighting strength for the rematch, if it happens.

I think he'll win even more decisively, by KO or TKO.

**Gandalf** · 12-03-2018 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I think we're being overly hard on Wilder. Sure, some of us predicted a Wilder KO win..... but it's not like the guy's done or unfixable. He had never faced a bigger man with a longer reach. He had never faced someone with such an unorthodox style as Fury. Yes, he became wild at times... but he put Fury on the canvas TWICE. The second time with a beautiful one-two combination. He needs to continue facing stiffer opposition and continue to work on his shortcomings. He's a great athlete, so that's not a stretch. A good trainer will continue to pound on the wide right hands, because Wilder is capable of throwing a straight one.

TBH, right now I rate both Wilder and Fury more than Joshua, just because of their willingness to face each other, and they did put on a good show. I for one would love to see it again.

Well said. I agree with that. Fury is a freak in terms of build and style and likely very difficult to prepare for, but Wilder certainly did a darn sight better than Wlad. He can do better now he knows what he is up against, but so can Fury. I think he needs a trainer to get serious with him on the technique. Punches were thrown that were never going to land and then he would smother his own work and again that is just a waste. For an athlete Wilder needs to learn how to close the gap and get out again better than he does. A lot of room to improve, but is he willing to do it at 33? That power is deadly and his get out clause, but 2 fights in a row now and he has got himself into trouble on the cards. Needs a bit more to win more rounds as well as get those KD's.

**Spicoli** · 12-03-2018 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I think we're being overly hard on Wilder. Sure, some of us predicted a Wilder KO win..... but it's not like the guy's done or unfixable. He had never faced a bigger man with a longer reach. He had never faced someone with such an unorthodox style as Fury. Yes, he became wild at times... but he put Fury on the canvas TWICE. The second time with a beautiful one-two combination. He needs to continue facing stiffer opposition and continue to work on his shortcomings. He's a great athlete, so that's not a stretch. A good trainer will continue to pound on the wide right hands, because Wilder is capable of throwing a straight one.

TBH, right now I rate both Wilder and Fury more than Joshua, just because of their willingness to face each other, and they did put on a good show. I for one would love to see it again.

First thing I thought of was late sub Washington even feeding him the tall jab early on. Wilder had the same look. Better to learn most basics before a guy gets on the level of shouting out for the elite in division. Used to call them top contenders needing to step up comp when they did that mostly. Wilder has a superb 1-2 really bow and arrow combo. Reminds me of Jermain Taylor with it but not like he can now go back to some Alabama bingo hall and run up another 10 wins. Or can he. The rematch will be steered by Fury and it's a massive career reboot for Wilder, just wish he was matched tougher when he was still arriving.

**Gandalf** · 12-03-2018 03:09 AM

I think the ref gave Fury far too much time after the 12th round KD. Must have been a good 30 seconds before they started fighting again. That was off for me.