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    Default Re: Fury v Wilder - Staples Center, Los Angeles 1/12/18

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Damn people. So Fury has room to get better but Wilder can't?

    It's like you all have shovels in your hands and Wilder's grave was already dug.

    Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm gonna go with Door # 2. I'm gonna say Wilder can go back to the drawing board.... study the fight.... study his mistakes... and possibly learn from them.

    Remember... it's his first "loss" even though it was officially ruled a draw. It was his first time against a taller, bigger man. It was probably his first time against someone who wasn't looking for a place to land.

    It's like a pack of vultures in here.

    Wilder was never good enough.... AJ would destroy him.... blah, blah, blah.

    First.... Joshua isn't Fury. No head games... no unorthodox boxing skills... nothing but straightforward style. Who knows if Wilder maybe can't beat Fury's style, even in a rematch..... but would probably make mincemeat out of AJ.

    Styles make fights.

    We'll see what happens. I'd love to see a rematch, and although I imagine Fury would be favored and rightly so, I'm not ready to get the Wilder career tombstone engraved just yet.

    Wilder did look gassed at the end of the fight, and wasn't able to take advantage of the huge knockdown he put on Fury. That's something to put a red flag on.

    Other than that, Wilder CAN and occasionally DOES throw a straight right hand. That's what he put Fury down with in the 12th round. I'm assuming Wilder can still be coached.
    Fair points and true enough there is usually always adjustments to improvements that can be focused on. But to sound like a broken record, you cannot build backwards once you've already arrived at the pinnacle of divisions best. Technically I guess a guy can by reversing competition and some visibility but it's all stuff that should have and needed to be realized prior. It's essentially back to basics and unfortunately networks..especially a ppv..are not going to green light tune ups and tutoring sessions. Then again you never know by looking at last nights undercard . I'm not writing Wilder off by any means and this will open his eyes and hopefully his mind, I just think it was all so avoidable if the work and retooling was done when it should have been. Now he's forced to learn on the job on the terms of much better fighters for all to see. And in fairness they don't come much bigger than Fury and Wilder regardless of height has always been a lean lighter heavy. He hasn't outweighed an opponent for a half dozen years and the biggest guys he's fought were Washington and Price at 6'6 and 6'7 respectfully...both pretty limited and ex footballers and basketball players but it's the skill level, anywhere close save for Ortiz, of Fury that he wasn't facing that did him in. The responsibility for proper preparation lays squarely on the shoulders of promotion, managers and the fighter themselves and the Wilder camp got lost in the KO numbers. The rematch will be very interesting if it comes off but unfortunately it's now Wilder being the one who needs it more. I think the best thing Wilder can do right now is forget AJ exists. Stick his nose in the lesson books and focus entirely on whats exactly in front of him. Forget purse splits, hypotheticals and twitter wars and dress up. Do work! And for god sakes get that 1-2 going like a piston and stop shelling up walking straight back. Very humbling sport this one.
    Last edited by Spicoli; 12-03-2018 at 06:51 PM.

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