Showtime Team: Time to hit the mute button.

[walrus]

I’m watching it tonight u guys got me very interested

[Gandalf]

I just rewatched it and for sure the commentary was off. Early rounds were rounds Wilder could have been given and he stepped it up after the half way mark and of course got the 2 10-8's. Fury won more rounds and boxed better, but Wilder used his own strength to make a draw a fair result. You cannot keep going down and not end up with a close fight unless you win the other 10rounds clearly and Fury fid not do that.

I think many are going overboard on Fury and that Wilder is being writtrn off too easily also. He is still champ.and now knows what Fury is now. He knows the KD's will come. He needs to polish up the work getting there and I think he can do a lot better himself. Maybe that was the best Fury. Maybe that was not the best Wilder.

[holmcall]

I just rewatched it and for sure the commentary was off. Early rounds were rounds Wilder could have been given and he stepped it up after the half way mark and of course got the 2 10-8's. Fury won more rounds and boxed better, but Wilder used his own strength to make a draw a fair result. You cannot keep going down and not end up with a close fight unless you win the other 10rounds clearly and Fury fid not do that.

I think many are going overboard on Fury and that Wilder is being writtrn off too easily also. He is still champ.and now knows what Fury is now. He knows the KD's will come. He needs to polish up the work getting there and I think he can do a lot better himself. Maybe that was the best Fury. Maybe that was not the best Wilder.

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[Fenster]

Their commentary was superb, between Paulie and Al they perfectly explained the subtle skills differences which allowed one man to dictate another, people could have been fooled into thinking Fury wasn't making Wilder constantly miss and hesitant.

Some fans never gave Mayweather any credit for making fighters miss either. Subtle skill is not easy for casual fans to pick up.

[Batman]

but Wilder used his own strength to make a draw a fair result. You cannot keep going down and not end up with a close fight unless you win the other 10rounds clearly and Fury fid not do that.

I don't disagree with that, I don't think it is the actual result that is the problem but the judges score cards, what was one of them 115 - 110 to Wilder? That is when people get pissed off.

I said to my mate that you don't go away from home get dropped twice and expect a runaway win on the cards but to suggest that Wilder was up on the cards without the knockdowns is a wee bit silly if you ask me.

[p4pking]

Their commentary was superb, between Paulie and Al they perfectly explained the subtle skills differences which allowed one man to dictate another, people could have been fooled into thinking Fury wasn't making Wilder constantly miss and hesitant.

Some fans never gave Mayweather any credit for making fighters miss either. Subtle skill is not easy for casual fans to pick up.

It was nice to hear Floyd knew what he was seeing also, I thought. I can understand anyone giving wilder one or even both of the first two rounds. I don't agree, but they were tepid feel out rounds where wilder might have got a reaction with his windmills that almost landed to close them. After that, I don't think you can give wilder a round aside from the 9th or 12th. With all the people saying "wilder could have been given another round or two", it's telling they don't suggest which those would be. The knockdowns made scoring it close a fair result, so all of a sudden it becomes, if you just score another couple rounds like you're Helen Keller, it's a draw.

[Gandalf]

If there was one round where Wilder landed no more than a couple of shots and the end punch stats how a difference of 13 landed shots then I struggle to see a complete Fury dominance outside of the KD rounds where he came back well both times. It clearly could not have been. I think it was pretty close. I have never said I think Wilder did enough to win but merely assert that the 113-113 card does at least make sense.

[TitoFan]

If there was one round where Wilder landed no more than a couple of shots and the end punch stats how a difference of 13 landed shots then I struggle to see a complete Fury dominance outside of the KD rounds where he came back well both times. It clearly could not have been. I think it was pretty close. I have never said I think Wilder did enough to win but merely assert that the 113-113 card does at least make sense.

We're in the minority here, but I agree.

What's laughable is reading how Paulie did such a "great job" commentating. I specifically remember thinking how Paulie was saying how Fury was dominating with the jab in the first couple of rounds, and honestly he was missing most of those. And it was Wilder making him miss. What happened in the 2nd half of the fight everyone agrees..... and nobody is disputing the fact that Fury actually won the fight. But the bias of boxing fans never fails to amaze in a big fight.

But I'll be watching the replay....... on MUTE. I'll probably have Fury winning the fight, but with a fairly close score.

[Gandalf]

Totally. There was one point where Fury threw 3 or 4 jabs and Wilder avoided them with his head movement. There were other times Fury landed on the guard and the commentary was going overboard. It was getting a bit silly. Then Mayweather saying Fury was 5 up and I thought 'This is really not quite what I am seeing at all'.