Gennady Golovkin’s next fight: Ryota Murata named as frontrunner for Japan bout

[Alpha]

I say it again and again, but I understand GGGs whole thing with waiting for Canelo because he makes massive amounts of money for it, but there comes a point to where a lose respect for him as a fighter. He does not need to fight Canelo a third time. And I lose the little respect I have for Canelo for not taking on any other actual top middleweight.

GGG needs the belts back, money and right the wrongs of the last fight.

He should have won both of the fights and he is still allowing Canelo to dictate his career. It’s as if he’s trying to prove a point that has already been proven. He beat Canelo twice but he keeps coming back for more.

Judges thought otherwise and it is not as if Golovkin is doing this deliberately.

Judges didn’t think so, they were paid off to think so. And GGG doesn’t have to fight Canelo again. He can just say “I beat Canelo twice and the judges were paid off both times so I am going to fight another top guy in the division instead of getting cheated a third time.”

Obviously he won’t do that though because there’s too much money on the table to let it go.

GGG doesn't have to fight Canelo, but no one else brings in that sort of money. Canelo is also seen as a P4P fighter and a top middleweight and champion/ beltholder whatever, from GGG's point of view the fight is an obvious choice.

[powerpuncher]

I say it again and again, but I understand GGGs whole thing with waiting for Canelo because he makes massive amounts of money for it, but there comes a point to where a lose respect for him as a fighter. He does not need to fight Canelo a third time. And I lose the little respect I have for Canelo for not taking on any other actual top middleweight.

GGG needs the belts back, money and right the wrongs of the last fight.

He should have won both of the fights and he is still allowing Canelo to dictate his career. It’s as if he’s trying to prove a point that has already been proven. He beat Canelo twice but he keeps coming back for more.

Judges thought otherwise and it is not as if Golovkin is doing this deliberately.

Judges didn’t think so, they were paid off to think so. And GGG doesn’t have to fight Canelo again. He can just say “I beat Canelo twice and the judges were paid off both times so I am going to fight another top guy in the division instead of getting cheated a third time.”

Obviously he won’t do that though because there’s too much money on the table to let it go.

GGG doesn't have to fight Canelo, but no one else brings in that sort of money. Canelo is also seen as a P4P fighter and a top middleweight and champion/ beltholder whatever, from GGG's point of view the fight is an obvious choice.

Trust me I know. It just shows that money talks and it doesn’t matter who the best is.

[Alpha]

I say it again and again, but I understand GGGs whole thing with waiting for Canelo because he makes massive amounts of money for it, but there comes a point to where a lose respect for him as a fighter. He does not need to fight Canelo a third time. And I lose the little respect I have for Canelo for not taking on any other actual top middleweight.

GGG needs the belts back, money and right the wrongs of the last fight.

He should have won both of the fights and he is still allowing Canelo to dictate his career. It’s as if he’s trying to prove a point that has already been proven. He beat Canelo twice but he keeps coming back for more.

Judges thought otherwise and it is not as if Golovkin is doing this deliberately.

Judges didn’t think so, they were paid off to think so. And GGG doesn’t have to fight Canelo again. He can just say “I beat Canelo twice and the judges were paid off both times so I am going to fight another top guy in the division instead of getting cheated a third time.”

Obviously he won’t do that though because there’s too much money on the table to let it go.

GGG doesn't have to fight Canelo, but no one else brings in that sort of money. Canelo is also seen as a P4P fighter and a top middleweight and champion/ beltholder whatever, from GGG's point of view the fight is an obvious choice.

Trust me I know. It just shows that money talks and it doesn’t matter who the best is.

Who would you say is the best guy at 160?

[powerpuncher]

I say it again and again, but I understand GGGs whole thing with waiting for Canelo because he makes massive amounts of money for it, but there comes a point to where a lose respect for him as a fighter. He does not need to fight Canelo a third time. And I lose the little respect I have for Canelo for not taking on any other actual top middleweight.

GGG needs the belts back, money and right the wrongs of the last fight.

He should have won both of the fights and he is still allowing Canelo to dictate his career. It’s as if he’s trying to prove a point that has already been proven. He beat Canelo twice but he keeps coming back for more.

Judges thought otherwise and it is not as if Golovkin is doing this deliberately.

Judges didn’t think so, they were paid off to think so. And GGG doesn’t have to fight Canelo again. He can just say “I beat Canelo twice and the judges were paid off both times so I am going to fight another top guy in the division instead of getting cheated a third time.”

Obviously he won’t do that though because there’s too much money on the table to let it go.

GGG doesn't have to fight Canelo, but no one else brings in that sort of money. Canelo is also seen as a P4P fighter and a top middleweight and champion/ beltholder whatever, from GGG's point of view the fight is an obvious choice.

Trust me I know. It just shows that money talks and it doesn’t matter who the best is.

Who would you say is the best guy at 160?

It’s close but I think GGG has proven that he is still the best. Jacobs deserves a rematch over Canelo since the Jacobs match was closer than both Canelo fights. Charlo might be the best and deserves a chance to prove it.

What bothers me is that Canelo and GGG have been holding up the division for a long time and there are two other fighters who are legit and should get a shot at the titles. A third fight shouldn’t happen between GGG and Canelo from a “who’s the best?” Standpoint.

[Alpha]

I say it again and again, but I understand GGGs whole thing with waiting for Canelo because he makes massive amounts of money for it, but there comes a point to where a lose respect for him as a fighter. He does not need to fight Canelo a third time. And I lose the little respect I have for Canelo for not taking on any other actual top middleweight.

GGG needs the belts back, money and right the wrongs of the last fight.

He should have won both of the fights and he is still allowing Canelo to dictate his career. It’s as if he’s trying to prove a point that has already been proven. He beat Canelo twice but he keeps coming back for more.

Judges thought otherwise and it is not as if Golovkin is doing this deliberately.

Judges didn’t think so, they were paid off to think so. And GGG doesn’t have to fight Canelo again. He can just say “I beat Canelo twice and the judges were paid off both times so I am going to fight another top guy in the division instead of getting cheated a third time.”

Obviously he won’t do that though because there’s too much money on the table to let it go.

GGG doesn't have to fight Canelo, but no one else brings in that sort of money. Canelo is also seen as a P4P fighter and a top middleweight and champion/ beltholder whatever, from GGG's point of view the fight is an obvious choice.

Trust me I know. It just shows that money talks and it doesn’t matter who the best is.

Who would you say is the best guy at 160?

It’s close but I think GGG has proven that he is still the best. Jacobs deserves a rematch over Canelo since the Jacobs match was closer than both Canelo fights. Charlo might be the best and deserves a chance to prove it.

What bothers me is that Canelo and GGG have been holding up the division for a long time and there are two other fighters who are legit and should get a shot at the titles. A third fight shouldn’t happen between GGG and Canelo from a “who’s the best?” Standpoint.

I would like to see other fights, no doubt. From Canelo's point of view tho, he would once again be taking on a guy seen by many as the best in the division.

[powerpuncher]

Canelo’s side makes perfect sense. He gets the “win” in both fights and can keep fighting GGG to eventually get a legit win because GGG is slowly fading with age. He may actually be favored to legit win this next fight. He is already a joke anyways to real fans and he has Mexico in his pocket and they will side with him on anything. Which means that he becomes the media darling and can do no wrong. Charlo and Jacobs are huge risks for Canelo that he wants to avoid

[Alpha]

Canelo’s side makes perfect sense. He gets the “win” in both fights and can keep fighting GGG to eventually get a legit win because GGG is slowly fading with age. He may actually be favored to legit win this next fight. He is already a joke anyways to real fans and he has Mexico in his pocket and they will side with him on anything. Which means that he becomes the media darling and can do no wrong. Charlo and Jacobs are huge risks for Canelo that he wants to avoid

Oh I agree the advantages are stacked for Canelo, especially as father time catches up to GGG. To play devil's advocate tho, Canelo does have to get in the ring and survive until the end of the fight. It's not like he just has to turn up to a desk job. As we saw with Stevenson, the reality of this sport can be brutal.

I agree Jacobs is a huge risk, you could argue he is the #1 guy at 160.

I like the Charlo's but they do stuff that irritates me. Like missing the random VADA testing recently. They are supposed to be contactable at all times. But neither answered their phones. Then you see Jermell in the ring with Hurd saying "My phone is always on".

Jermall's time will come and then hopefully we get to see him against some of these other guys.