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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
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    I know nothing about Crawford. Hit hard?

    Does Khan have a chance in this
    A peak Khan, however you want to interpret that from a few years ago could have conceivably dragged this out with speed and elusiveness and made Crawford miss enough to have at least a chance of a narrow points decision. Khan circa 2019 could be stopped very early. Khan has clearly lost the edge that gave him a get out clause when faced with a dangerous opponent. TKO/KO for Crawford is the most likely outcome but I would not put it past Khan to drag one more performance out of the fire and at least make it entertaining and competitive for a few rounds. Unlikely though.
    A peak Khan would have still gotten destroyed by Crawford. Khan had a few decent wins during his career but nothing great. Maidana was far and away his best win. Khan was in top form that fight and barely pulled it out. Crawford would stop a prime Khan probably late. Khan may win a few rounds, but he would be a giant underdog.
    When Khan made Alexander look very poor in 2014, Crawford did not look like was destroying Burns. We will never know but you are correct in saying Maidana was his best win. Not far and away but that was no mean feat.
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    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
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    Pumping up Canelo in order to then pump up Khan. Totally unnecessary.

    Canelo-Khan was the predictable plodder vs. boxer. Except this time the boxer had idiotically jumped up two weight divisions to meet someone who has made a career of coming in much heavier than his opponents..... and these are the ones from the SAME DIVISION. Credit to Khan for lasting as long as he did..... but it was like watching Teofilo Stevenson or an early George Foreman walking around with the right hand cocked and waiting for the mosquito to stay still.

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    Chris Algieri bullied, boxed and backed Khan in gaps. Chris I'm a nutritionist Algieri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Chris Algieri bullied, boxed and backed Khan in gaps. Chris I'm a nutritionist Algieri.
    Yes he changed his style to pressure Khan to offset the speed. It was great tactics as Khan has struggled with pressure at all levels - novice, British and world. Collazo and Peterson also had success pressuring him after giving up trying to box with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Chris Algieri bullied, boxed and backed Khan in gaps. Chris I'm a nutritionist Algieri.
    Yes he changed his style to pressure Khan to offset the speed. It was great tactics as Khan has struggled with pressure at all levels - novice, British and world. Collazo and Peterson also had success pressuring him after giving up trying to box with him.
    There goes Fonzie over the shark pool . Ok all three adapted styles and found some equal footing and were effective with Khan, can't imagine what another end of it contender like Crawford can hope to do. Love to see Khan come to the new hotbed of Nebraska though, combined fandom would be solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
    Take your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
    Take your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
    If this were a prime Khan you could be right. Khan would for sure be the biggest name Crawford hasn’t fought, but not the best fighter at this point in Khan’s career.

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    My point about Canelo - which went over some heads, as usual () - is everyone thought Khan was past it then and KNEW he was going to get ironed out in a mismatch, however, he won rounds against a P4P dude even giving away all the advantages.

    He will obviously prepare for Crawford much more diligently than his comeback warmups, therefore a fully tuned up Khan has enough credentials to give Crawford a better fight than most expect. This time at least he'll be fighting a man the same size who might need more than one punch to send him into outer space.

    There's far more predictable fights on the table for Crawford than Khan's speed and pedigree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
    Take your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
    The point I highlighted was that this will be "arguably Crawford's best win." I'm sorry, but that's bullshit, and that's why I'm arguing it.
    forget about "all our yesterdays" and what he was in the past , at this moment in time I don't see how Khan can be rated in the 10 best WW's on the planet based on what he has ACTUALLY done in the ring of late.
    and you're telling me that Crawford beating a guy who isn't even in the top 10 is a better victory than beating a World Champion convincingly for the title in their own Back Yard (Burns) or beating highly ranked opponents like Gamboa , Beltran and Dulorme. Or going up in weight and beating Viktor Postol, or even taking a title from a guy who beat Manny Pacquiao!
    Like I said, I'm not against the fight, from Khan's side , because he's fighting a top guy for a World Title, best of luck to him. From Crawford's side , Khan has to be a better opponent than Collazo because Khan beat him.
    But let's not hype up Khan , or even perhaps discredit Crawford with comments like this being Crawford's best win.
    and finally, again, let's not put all the bells and whistles on Khan's performance against Canelo because he won a fucking round or two. Canelo just stalked Khan a bit like a bull and a matador until Canelo caught up with him. it was ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT!
    no disrespect, but This is the same horseshit argument as when people saying Khan was winning against Danny Garcia before he got KO'd!!!!! it's ludicrous.
    Normally you can't completely discount a fighter's chances because any Boxer should have a puncher's chance, but I don't even think Khan has that chance.
    I honestly believe that the only chance Khan has got is if Crawford gets injured in the fight (shoulder or something) and Khan is fighting an invalid. But good luck to him nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
    Take your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
    The point I highlighted was that this will be "arguably Crawford's best win." I'm sorry, but that's bullshit, and that's why I'm arguing it.
    forget about "all our yesterdays" and what he was in the past , at this moment in time I don't see how Khan can be rated in the 10 best WW's on the planet based on what he has ACTUALLY done in the ring of late.
    and you're telling me that Crawford beating a guy who isn't even in the top 10 is a better victory than beating a World Champion convincingly for the title in their own Back Yard (Burns) or beating highly ranked opponents like Gamboa , Beltran and Dulorme. Or going up in weight and beating Viktor Postol, or even taking a title from a guy who beat Manny Pacquiao!
    Like I said, I'm not against the fight, from Khan's side , because he's fighting a top guy for a World Title, best of luck to him. From Crawford's side , Khan has to be a better opponent than Collazo because Khan beat him.
    But let's not hype up Khan , or even perhaps discredit Crawford with comments like this being Crawford's best win.
    and finally, again, let's not put all the bells and whistles on Khan's performance against Canelo because he won a fucking round or two. Canelo just stalked Khan a bit like a bull and a matador until Canelo caught up with him. it was ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT!
    no disrespect, but This is the same horseshit argument as when people saying Khan was winning against Danny Garcia before he got KO'd!!!!! it's ludicrous.
    Normally you can't completely discount a fighter's chances because any Boxer should have a puncher's chance, but I don't even think Khan has that chance.
    I honestly believe that the only chance Khan has got is if Crawford gets injured in the fight (shoulder or something) and Khan is fighting an invalid. But good luck to him nonetheless.
    So Crawford's best opponents are -

    Burns - Fought Crawford coming off a loss to Beltran, had previously been battered at British level and post Crawford lost another million fights.

    Gamboa - A little featherweight who was forced to move back down in weight after losing and/or struggling with everyone at 135.

    Beltran - A solid fringe world-class/journeyman drugs cheat with a million losses.

    Dulorme - What the!!! How does he possibly rank any higher than Khan's last opponent - Vargas? Khan literally has a dozen names with better credentials.

    Postol - Claim to fame? Forced a shot Matthesye to quit then after getting schooled by Crawford got a 2nd schooling off a British prospect.

    Khan's best opponents are littered with "world" champions, unified champions, multi-division champions, lineal champions, current and former P4P and HOF-amers!!!

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    Khan's opposition makes Crawford's look embarrassing. Fact.
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    Default Re: Crawford vs Khan..

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Arguably Khan will be Crawford's best win, certainly his most high profile. And Khan has always done great with boxers.

    Just look at the guys Canelo completly and utterly outclasses, Khan gave him weight and held his own until the inevitable. Let alone the world-class fighters he's beat.
    come on ffs. While I don’t have much of a problem with this fight , let’s not try to make out that he deserves it . Loads of fights on his record will be better wins than this.
    And as for the Canelo thing, he didn’t do anything special and then got spectacularly KO’d as expected.
    Take your personal feelings for Khan out of it then pick any fighter on Crawford's record who can boast a winning record of 9-2 against world-class opposition?

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    I don't care about "deserve" or even if Khan can win, I am merely pointing out he will be Crawford's biggest and best name. And contrary to what many claim, you quite simply can't beat that many world-class fighters without being seriously top-drawer yourself.
    The point I highlighted was that this will be "arguably Crawford's best win." I'm sorry, but that's bullshit, and that's why I'm arguing it.
    forget about "all our yesterdays" and what he was in the past , at this moment in time I don't see how Khan can be rated in the 10 best WW's on the planet based on what he has ACTUALLY done in the ring of late.
    and you're telling me that Crawford beating a guy who isn't even in the top 10 is a better victory than beating a World Champion convincingly for the title in their own Back Yard (Burns) or beating highly ranked opponents like Gamboa , Beltran and Dulorme. Or going up in weight and beating Viktor Postol, or even taking a title from a guy who beat Manny Pacquiao!
    Like I said, I'm not against the fight, from Khan's side , because he's fighting a top guy for a World Title, best of luck to him. From Crawford's side , Khan has to be a better opponent than Collazo because Khan beat him.
    But let's not hype up Khan , or even perhaps discredit Crawford with comments like this being Crawford's best win.
    and finally, again, let's not put all the bells and whistles on Khan's performance against Canelo because he won a fucking round or two. Canelo just stalked Khan a bit like a bull and a matador until Canelo caught up with him. it was ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT!
    no disrespect, but This is the same horseshit argument as when people saying Khan was winning against Danny Garcia before he got KO'd!!!!! it's ludicrous.
    Normally you can't completely discount a fighter's chances because any Boxer should have a puncher's chance, but I don't even think Khan has that chance.
    I honestly believe that the only chance Khan has got is if Crawford gets injured in the fight (shoulder or something) and Khan is fighting an invalid. But good luck to him nonetheless.
    So Crawford's best opponents are -

    Burns - Fought Crawford coming off a loss to Beltran, had previously been battered at British level and post Crawford lost another million fights.

    Gamboa - A little featherweight who was forced to move back down in weight after losing and/or struggling with everyone at 135.

    Beltran - A solid fringe world-class/journeyman drugs cheat with a million losses.

    Dulorme - What the!!! How does he possibly rank any higher than Khan's last opponent - Vargas? Khan literally has a dozen names with better credentials.

    Postol - Claim to fame? Forced a shot Matthesye to quit then after getting schooled by Crawford got a 2nd schooling off a British prospect.

    Khan's best opponents are littered with "world" champions, unified champions, multi-division champions, lineal champions, current and former P4P and HOF-amers!!!

    Canelo
    Maidana
    Zab
    Paulie
    Kotelnik
    Garcia
    Peterson
    Alexander
    Collazo
    Barrera
    Algieri

    Khan's opposition makes Crawford's look embarrassing. Fact.
    those opponents were a million years ago ffs. At this rate Ricky Hatton could chop his right leg off so he can make the weight, come back and he would be "Arguably Crawford's best win!"
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