NASA says humans could land on Mars in 25 years

[Alpha]

I want my 7 minutes back. 'The first rule about flat club is you don't talk about flat club' . So basically we're one giant pool surrounded by the Artic ice glaciers holding everything in?

Didn't watch the vid, so don't know what was said.

I don't associate myself with any flat earth models/ maps. Some flat earthers speculate that an ice wall surrounds the earth/ disc.

But the reality is, we know how water works in this reality. We all know water will fill it's container and the surface will be flat (level if you want). I can show you water doing this, every time. It's something that is observable and demonstrable, you can do it yourself. You know the actual scientific method.

I'd like a ball earther to present me with a scale model of their ball earth, using the same substances, showing water conforming to the exterior of a shape.

In our reality we can do a scale model of anything tangible, that is real science.

If you can't scale it, and it's not observable, repeatable and demonstrable then it's just pseudoscience.

I'll wait

[Spicoli]

Ball Earthers . Ok sorry. But how can some claim we're surrounded by glaciers to 'keep everything in ' and some do not. Not exactly a unified fact based belief it would seem. But not to dumb it down too much..where does it drain. I mean water may be level on surface but ocean floors etc can vary by miles. What of waves. Why do we not eventually over saturate and simply fill up and spill over.

[Alpha]

Ball Earthers . Ok sorry. But how can some claim we're surrounded by glaciers to 'keep everything in ' and some do not. Not exactly a unified fact based belief it would seem. But not to dumb it down too much..where does it drain. I mean water may be level on surface but ocean floors etc can vary by miles. What of waves. Why do we not eventually over saturate and simply fill up and spill over.

Like I said, there are some that are shills and provide mis information. Like the flat earth society, that thinks the earth is constantly moving upwards.

Some speculate that an ice wall surrounds us, but the reality is we don't know the true dimensions of what we are on. So I prefer to say I don't know, but I know it has to be some sort of container to keep the water in. There is no way it can be a sphere. Because we know how the natural physics of water work in this reality.

Waves are motion. If I make waves in a pool are you going to tell me it isn't level? I'm not sure what you mean by filling up, the earth is apparently 70% water, so that water moves around with tides, evaporation etc. It's not like there is more magic water filling up the earth from somewhere else.

Still waiting on the scale model with water conforming to the exterior of a shape. Not to dumb it down too much, but if you can't recreate a scale model in this reality then it really is a belief.

[Beanz]

It's healthy to be skeptical that is the basis of science itself the willingness to question anything. Denial is another thing entirely. That is why I think you won't start a thread Alpha to discuss any of these questions. They would not stand up to scrutiny.

[Alpha]

It's healthy to be skeptical that is the basis of science itself the willingness to question anything. Denial is another thing entirely. That is why I think you won't start a thread Alpha to discuss any of these questions. They would not stand up to scrutiny.

Anytime you can create a scale model for me, using the same substances, with water conforming to the exterior of a shape, I'll be interested.

And can I ask what type of science you are referring to?

Still waiting.

[Beanz]

It's healthy to be skeptical that is the basis of science itself the willingness to question anything. Denial is another thing entirely. That is why I think you won't start a thread Alpha to discuss any of these questions. They would not stand up to scrutiny.

Anytime you can create a scale model for me, using the same substances, with water conforming to the exterior of a shape, I'll be interested.

And can I ask what type of science you are referring to?

Still waiting.

Like I said.. denial.

Because we are not living in a vacuum in both a physical and philosophical sense.

You can't build a scale model even dismissing the problems with mass because you would be building that model on a spherical planet subject to friction and air resistance etc.

And we are not living in a scientific vacuum in which we need to dismiss everything you have not reproduced in a physical scaleable model and witnessed with your eyes. That requires a bigger leap of faith than that used by the religious.

We build on the knowledge of others not start from zero with every new human.

[Alpha]

So no scale model? You want me to just believe you then? Doesn't stand up to the scientific method then does it?

So I can tell and show you what water will do in this reality, and you can't provide a scale model of a ball earth but I'm in denial?

And what vacuum are you talking about? We can only produce a near vacuum.

Oh and you never said what type of science you were talking about.

Remember if it can't stand up to the scientific method then it isn't a fact.