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    A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

    Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

    Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

    You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

    Lets have a no deal bexit.

    This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

    Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

    Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

    You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

    Lets have a no deal bexit.

    This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.


    Obviously your opinion about Brexit is going to carry more weight, seeing as to how you actually live there.

    But do you really think the EU would view a 2nd referendum that way? I think the EU loses in general when the UK leaves, and most Europeans would probably see it that way. Many would welcome a 2nd referendum.

    The one issue I've always seen as a major factor in the whole Brexit thing is immigration.... maybe I'm wrong.

    And it has been used by pro-Brexit constituents as a "fear factor", if you will, to convince the general public the UK would be safer withdrawing from the EU.

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    As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump
    It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump
    It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.
    We master I understand that argument but high corporation taxes encourage companies to set up shop in China where intellectual property is stolen. Corporations and private business are the ones who are supposed to employ people. It’s tough though, I see both sides of the equation. Our corporate tax was around 28 or 27 percent recently. If you can go to Vietnam and pay a quarter of that, why not. People in the US flee to states with lower taxes, what’s the difference. One time the government was going after Microsoft for anti trust and taxes. Bill Gates started shopping around to different countries. All of the sudden the government quieted down. Let me as you, do these massive corporations provide any other benefits to your country than taxes, which they are great at avoiding. If they left, I bet the impact would be much greater than losing that 17% rate. I’ll stop bitching about people not paying taxes once I find a way to stop bitching about paying taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump
    It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.
    We master I understand that argument but high corporation taxes encourage companies to set up shop in China where intellectual property is stolen. Corporations and private business are the ones who are supposed to employ people. It’s tough though, I see both sides of the equation. Our corporate tax was around 28 or 27 percent recently. If you can go to Vietnam and pay a quarter of that, why not. People in the US flee to states with lower taxes, what’s the difference. One time the government was going after Microsoft for anti trust and taxes. Bill Gates started shopping around to different countries. All of the sudden the government quieted down. Let me as you, do these massive corporations provide any other benefits to your country than taxes, which they are great at avoiding. If they left, I bet the impact would be much greater than losing that 17% rate. I’ll stop bitching about people not paying taxes once I find a way to stop bitching about paying taxes
    The big corporations need the British consumers and to get to them they should have to pay their fair share of tax which they are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    As I follow brexit from afar it’s interesting to see how the indecision in Britain effects our stock market. I was also surprised to hear master say the corporate tax rate in England is 17% I think he said that, ours was 26-28% before trump
    It is 19% and should be higher, this Government are taxing the poor for the fat cats.
    We master I understand that argument but high corporation taxes encourage companies to set up shop in China where intellectual property is stolen. Corporations and private business are the ones who are supposed to employ people. It’s tough though, I see both sides of the equation. Our corporate tax was around 28 or 27 percent recently. If you can go to Vietnam and pay a quarter of that, why not. People in the US flee to states with lower taxes, what’s the difference. One time the government was going after Microsoft for anti trust and taxes. Bill Gates started shopping around to different countries. All of the sudden the government quieted down. Let me as you, do these massive corporations provide any other benefits to your country than taxes, which they are great at avoiding. If they left, I bet the impact would be much greater than losing that 17% rate. I’ll stop bitching about people not paying taxes once I find a way to stop bitching about paying taxes
    The big corporations need the British consumers and to get to them they should have to pay their fair share of tax which they are not.
    Exactly, those corporations are allowed access to a market that gives them the profits they have. If Facebook does not want to pay its taxes, then outlaw Facebook. Encourage alternatives that do co-operate and respect your society. In my opinion VAT should be minimal as it affects the poorest the most and tax systems should be progressive. The bigger the firm the more it should pay in tax as it obviously benefits the most from the market it is allowed access to. The opposite is what actually happens thus the poor pay a lot more tax proportionally than the rich do and that makes no sense from a moral or logical standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    A referendum happened because the politicians could not decide and was ripping the government apart.

    Sure people did not know what the Bexit deal was going to look like as it was impossible to say. So it was a simple in or out on the ballet box.

    Every side can hope and guess what it would look like but the remain campaign were the favourites.

    You cannot have another referendum because then EU know that if they play hard ball every country will ask for a second referendum. That is wrong.

    Lets have a no deal bexit.

    This deal we give £39 billion and get even less than before.


    Obviously your opinion about Brexit is going to carry more weight, seeing as to how you actually live there.

    But do you really think the EU would view a 2nd referendum that way? I think the EU loses in general when the UK leaves, and most Europeans would probably see it that way. Many would welcome a 2nd referendum.

    The one issue I've always seen as a major factor in the whole Brexit thing is immigration.... maybe I'm wrong.

    And it has been used by pro-Brexit constituents as a "fear factor", if you will, to convince the general public the UK would be safer withdrawing from the EU.
    I know the EU would love for us to have a second referendum what i meant was that any nation that voted to leave would get a hard Brexit because EU would hope the electorate have another referendum hoping that they will stay the second time. That is underhand and wrong.

    The people have voted and the politicians should deliver the mandate.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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