Fighters who dined out on a loss

[ryanman]

I blame Master. I assumed people would know exactly what I meant but he took it immediately down the wrong path.

It's probably too late now but to clarify

Fighters who's careers were defined by a loss, but they got their monies worth out of that loss.

What about Maidana? Lost twice to Floyd back to back but laughed all the way to the bank on both occasions.

Trust Master. Its comforting that things haven't changed around here...

[ryanman]

How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.

[Spicoli]

Meldrick Taylor crusher to Chavez? Never the same and always over shadows his prior masterpiece v McGirt.

[powerpuncher]

As far as I understand the question, both Jeff Lacy and Meldrick Taylor have been said which I agree that both are definitely remembered for their specific loss than anything else they did in their careers.

To a lesser extent, I would say Hamed with Barrera. Although people do talk about Hamed’s career prior to his loss, he almost became defined by that loss in the sense that it proved what level a fighter he really was.

[Fenster]

How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.

Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.

[ryanman]

How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.

Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.

I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate . At that point (199 its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).

[Fenster]

How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.

Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.

I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate . At that point (199 its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).

The Scott Harrison beating was the worst he ever took, hardly surprising considering McCullough was a pomp bantamweight facing a man who made Canelo blush when seeing his fight night weights.

[mikeeod]

I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.

[ryanman]

I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.

Nobody understands the question so you are in good company but that's a good one mate.

[Memphis]

I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.

Dont let the ramblings of these simpletons put you off your stride, you’ve understood perfectly

Wepner is a great example.

What about Dicky Eklund? Very similar circumstances to Wepner.

[Master]

What about James Toney as soon as he lost to Roy Jones he dined out so much he moved to cruiserweight and even heavyweight.

[Master]

You are all cunts.

Broner is making a career out of his losses.

Hagler made a lot of people like him when he retired to Italy after his loss to Leonard and the bad scoring of one judge.

Similarly Wlad has got a lot more supporters and enhaced his legacy by getting knocked out by AJ.

Rocky Fielding seems to have got some support here as the next big thing after his performance against Canelo.

Am I going down the right lines here?

[Primo Carnera]

You are all cunts.

Broner is making a career out of his losses.

Hagler made a lot of people like him when he retired to Italy after his loss to Leonard and the bad scoring of one judge.

Similarly Wlad has got a lot more supporters and enhaced his legacy by getting knocked out by AJ.

Rocky Fielding seems to have got some support here as the next big thing after his performance against Canelo.

Am I going down the right lines here?

You silly cunt! Hagler, Hearns, Wlad ain’t dining out on their losses, they’re fucking legends. Broner whether we like him or not is a 3 weight (or is it 4??) World Champion.
We’re talking about people like Martin Murray and Paul Smith, who were the “shoulda, woulda, coulda” brigade. Gallant losers , but never won fuck all. Chisora dines out on all his fucking losses and Dave “boy” Green for his KO by SRL.

[Master]

You are all cunts.

Broner is making a career out of his losses.

Hagler made a lot of people like him when he retired to Italy after his loss to Leonard and the bad scoring of one judge.

Similarly Wlad has got a lot more supporters and enhaced his legacy by getting knocked out by AJ.

Rocky Fielding seems to have got some support here as the next big thing after his performance against Canelo.

Am I going down the right lines here?

You silly cunt! Hagler, Hearns, Wlad ain’t dining out on their losses, they’re fucking legends. Broner whether we like him or not is a 3 weight (or is it 4??) World Champion.
We’re talking about people like Martin Murray and Paul Smith, who were the “shoulda, woulda, coulda” brigade. Gallant losers , but never won fuck all. Chisora dines out on all his fucking losses and Dave “boy” Green for his KO by SRL.

No you are wrong, it is not about that at all. Memphis tell him I am right and he is wrong.

[ryanman]

I told you Memphis, totally fucked.