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    Default Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss

    How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

    He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
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    Default Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss

    Meldrick Taylor crusher to Chavez? Never the same and always over shadows his prior masterpiece v McGirt.

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    Default Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss

    As far as I understand the question, both Jeff Lacy and Meldrick Taylor have been said which I agree that both are definitely remembered for their specific loss than anything else they did in their careers.

    To a lesser extent, I would say Hamed with Barrera. Although people do talk about Hamed’s career prior to his loss, he almost became defined by that loss in the sense that it proved what level a fighter he really was.

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    Default Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

    He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
    Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

    You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

    He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
    Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

    You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
    I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate . At that point (199 its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
    Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
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    How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.

    He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
    Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).

    You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
    I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate . At that point (199 its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
    Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).
    The Scott Harrison beating was the worst he ever took, hardly surprising considering McCullough was a pomp bantamweight facing a man who made Canelo blush when seeing his fight night weights.
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    I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.
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    Wepner is a great example.

    What about Dicky Eklund? Very similar circumstances to Wepner.
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    Default Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss

    What about James Toney as soon as he lost to Roy Jones he dined out so much he moved to cruiserweight and even heavyweight.
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