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    Default Re: Larry Merchant destroyed fights with his sour commentary!

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Larry Merchant was a great boxing analyst and commentator. He was very articulate and had a talent for words, and was always fair in his commentary.

    Max Kellerman in contrast is extremely biased and racist. He absolutely hates white boxers, and always roots against them.
    Kellerman is white so it’s weird you think he is racist against white fighters. Biased is one thing but racist is ridiculous. Also, he loves GGG who is white, so that ruins your argument.

    Now if you are talking about Roy Jones, then I will agree that he is very bias towards black fighters over white fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Kellerman is white so it’s weird you think he is racist against white fighters. Biased is one thing but racist is ridiculous.
    He's Jewish, so he doesn't consider himself white. He believes he's superior.
    Now if you are talking about Roy Jones, then I will agree that he is very bias towards black fighters over white fighters.
    Roy will usually give white boxers credit when they deserve it, Max will not. Roy doesn't lie and minimize white fighters accomplishments like Kellerman. For example, I remember when Hatton KOed Jose Luis Castillo, Max immediately said "Castillo is shot".

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    Default Re: Larry Merchant destroyed fights with his sour commentary!

    Just because he is Jewish does not mean he considers himself to not be white or superior.

    Keep making a fool of yourself with your posts.
    Last edited by Master; 02-04-2019 at 04:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Just because he is Jewish does not mean he considers himself consider himself to not be white or superior.

    Keep making a fool of yourself with your posts.
    If some people are so naive to think my posting the truth is "making a fool" of myself, then so be it.

    It's not because Kellerman is Jewish, not all Jews consider themselves to be a "chosen" or "superior" race. For example, Al Bernstein has been fair in his commentary about white fighters in recent years. I've met him in Las Vegas, and he seems a genuinely nice guy. Larry Merchant (who changed his name from Kaufman) is also Jewish, but never showed any hate for white athletes.

    Most people can easily tell Max Kellerman hates white boxers, he doesn't try to hide it. He is not against his own white Ashkenazi people, he's been an activist in an organization created to preserve the Yiddish language. By the way, in Yiddish the word for cattle "goyim" is the same as the word for gentiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Just because he is Jewish does not mean he considers himself consider himself to not be white or superior.

    Keep making a fool of yourself with your posts.
    If some people are so naive to think my posting the truth is "making a fool" of myself, then so be it.

    It's not because he is Jewish, not all Jews consider themselves to be a "chosen" or "superior" race. For example, Al Bernstein has been fair in his commentary about white fighters in recent years. I've met him in Las Vegas, and he seems a genuinely nice guy.

    Most people can easily tell Max Kellerman hates white boxers, he doesn't try to hide it. He is not against his own white Ashkenazi people, he's been an activist in an organization created to preserve the Yiddish language. By the way, in Yiddish the word for cattle "goyim" is the same as the word for gentiles.
    Goy - Nation

    Goy Kadosh - Holy Nation (Jews)

    Goyim - Plural - Nations

    Bakar - Cattle ...also can be interchanged with Freedom as in 'being full of shit'.

    You have unwittingly dog whistled yourself as being an anti-semitic old fool by repeating the 'Goyim' old wives tale. You may want it to be true, but it ain't.


    Max Kellerman may be an idiot but you don't get to speak for him or Other Jews or boxing fans in general


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    This may help you

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=512

    Verdict...Sadly a Jew
    I saw that before. I posted that same link one time on another forum, but the mods deleted it. Even Kellerman own people are ashamed of him, he's not as clever and subtle as most Jews, he doesn't hide his feelings toward white gentiles.

    According to that site, Klitschkos have some Jewish heritage, Froch does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    This may help you

    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=512

    Verdict...Sadly a Jew
    I saw that before. I posted that same link one time on another forum, but the mods deleted it. Even Kellerman own people are ashamed of him, he's not as clever and subtle as most Jews, he doesn't hide his feelings toward white gentiles.

    According to that site, Klitschkos have some Jewish heritage, Froch does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Just because he is Jewish does not mean he considers himself to not be white or superior.

    Keep making a fool of yourself with your posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Kellerman is white so it’s weird you think he is racist against white fighters. Biased is one thing but racist is ridiculous.
    He's Jewish, so he doesn't consider himself white. He believes he's superior.
    Now if you are talking about Roy Jones, then I will agree that he is very bias towards black fighters over white fighters.
    Roy will usually give white boxers credit when they deserve it, Max will not. Roy doesn't lie and minimize white fighters accomplishments like Kellerman. For example, I remember when Hatton KOed Jose Luis Castillo, Max immediately said "Castillo is shot".
    I honestly think you are the only person I’ve ever heard say that Kellerman is racist against white people. And Castillo was shot against Hatton. Jones is far more bias for black fighters. I’ve never once noticed it with Kellerman. If other people agree with you that’s fine, but it seems like you are the only one who notices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    I honestly think you are the only person I’ve ever heard say that Kellerman is racist against white people. And Castillo was shot against Hatton. Jones is far more bias for black fighters. I’ve never once noticed it with Kellerman. If other people agree with you that’s fine, but it seems like you are the only one who notices.
    Many people can see Max hates white boxers, it's obvious. Read YouTube comments, and comments from fans on other forums.

    Roy Jones is much less biased than Kellerman, for example he was honest about Kovalev deserving to win the first fight against Ward. Jones agreed with the Calzaghe's decision win over Hopkins, Kellerman called it a robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Kellerman is white so it’s weird you think he is racist against white fighters. Biased is one thing but racist is ridiculous.
    He's Jewish, so he doesn't consider himself white. He believes he's superior.
    Now if you are talking about Roy Jones, then I will agree that he is very bias towards black fighters over white fighters.
    Roy will usually give white boxers credit when they deserve it, Max will not. Roy doesn't lie and minimize white fighters accomplishments like Kellerman. For example, I remember when Hatton KOed Jose Luis Castillo, Max immediately said "Castillo is shot".
    Boy you're stuck on those broad brushes aren't you . Max is equal opportunity absurd sometimes, he don't care if you're pink with purple stripes. He'll put his foot in his mouth to get his point across but truth be told..Castillo was mostly shot to pieces and it was obvious. A guy two yrs removed from his biggest win goes to 140 with a reputation for taking punishment (HBO loved it) who 'lost' to Ngoudjo before Hatton and who's legs looked weak in the 1st round. He never again won a top fight and gave a way a chance to fight Bradley because he wouldn't make weight. Castillo was well on his way out..Max was right. Now that was a great ko from Hatton, but sighting facts one way or the other doesn't make a guy "racist". Unless of course you have another problem with ol Kellerman of course .

    Didn't he praise Tzsyu in a possible fight with Hatton? And say Wlad was supremely skilled and good for the sport but was just not that entertaining? Who hasn't said that? Didn't he also say Calzaghe was better than a top form Spinks. Now thats not racist. Maybe a bit looney possibly but zero to do with race.

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    Merchant doesn't really translate well here and Kellerman even less. Merchant may have been the colour commentary guy, and I can see the drunk uncle analogy, but for us here the nearest equivalent was probably Jim Watt. Unlike Merchant Jim was an ex pro who knew what it took to step thru those ropes but he was certainly a marmite character. Loads of people hated Watt, but i kind of liked him. I rarely agreed with him or his commentary but that is not the point. He became a familiar voice, and like a local draft beer that is not your favourite, but all that is available down the Ferrret and Felcher, you get used to it. It is like having an old friend, there next to you on the sofa, as much a tradition as the boring anthems and the rush to grab another bottle between rounds.

    We are going to miss that with all this choice. Streams? Schmeems. Having to put up with stuff builds character and makes you enjoy the fight despite and sometimes because you want that timbre, that familiar roll and rhythm, even if it is to laugh at how diametrically opposed they may be to you in the reading of a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Didn't he praise Tzsyu in a possible fight with Hatton?
    I don't remember that, but he would support an Asian boxer like Tszyu (Kostya had a Korean mother, like Golovkin) over a White boxer like Hatton.
    And say Wlad was supremely skilled and good for the sport but was just not that entertaining?
    No. He said "the sport of boxing would be better without the Klitschkos" and went on and on many times about how the only reason Wlad was dominating was because it's a "weak division".
    Didn't he also say Calzaghe was better than a top form Spinks?
    No. He said Calzaghe was knocked down by a "shot" Eubank in their fight (a lie), that Hopkins was robbed against Calzaghe (a lie), and that Calzaghe only dominated 168 because it was a "weak division" (another lie).

    Other examples:

    Max said "Berto defeated Urango by a wider margin on the scorecards than Ricky Hatton did" after the Berto-Urango fight. That's a lie - check BoxRec for the scorecards.

    Max said "Rahman is taking this fight on THREE weeks notice" during the Rahman-Klitschko HBO telecast. Old news reports on boxing sites can verify it was SIX weeks notice - Rahman agreed to the fight in late October and fought Wlad on Dec 13.

    lie: "Most people thought Collazo beat Hatton"

    lie: "Eubank knocked down Calzaghe in the first round of their fight"

    lie: "Judah wasn't really hurt in his fight with Tszyu, it was an unfair stoppage"

    lie: "Bute is MUCH bigger than Miranda"

    lie: "The Klitschkos never get real KOs, just TKOs"

    lie: "Calzaghe is doing more poorly against Roy than a shot Trinidad did"

    Kellerman sees nothing but race. He'd root for Tszyu (half Russian, half Korean) over Hatton, but Judah over Tszyu.
    Last edited by Freedom; 02-10-2019 at 04:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Didn't he praise Tzsyu in a possible fight with Hatton?
    I don't remember that, but he would support an Asian boxer like Tszyu (Kostya had a Korean mother, like Golovkin) over a White boxer like Hatton.
    And say Wlad was supremely skilled and good for the sport but was just not that entertaining?
    No. He said "the sport of boxing would be better without the Klitschkos" and went on and on many times about how the only reason Wlad was dominating was because it's a "weak division".
    Didn't he also say Calzaghe was better than a top form Spinks?
    No. He said Calzaghe was knocked down by a "shot" Eubank in their fight (a lie), that Hopkins was robbed against Calzaghe (a lie), and that Calzaghe only dominated 168 because it was a "weak division" (another lie).
    Have you taken notes? I’m not saying you are lying but I have to see clips for all of these things you claim because it’s surprising if you could refute every one of those claims with specific examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Didn't he praise Tzsyu in a possible fight with Hatton?
    I don't remember that, but he would support an Asian boxer like Tszyu (Kostya had a Korean mother, like Golovkin) over a White boxer like Hatton.
    And say Wlad was supremely skilled and good for the sport but was just not that entertaining?
    No. He said "the sport of boxing would be better without the Klitschkos" and went on and on many times about how the only reason Wlad was dominating was because it's a "weak division".
    Didn't he also say Calzaghe was better than a top form Spinks?
    No. He said Calzaghe was knocked down by a "shot" Eubank in their fight (a lie), that Hopkins was robbed against Calzaghe (a lie), and that Calzaghe only dominated 168 because it was a "weak division" (another lie).

    Other examples:

    Max said "Berto defeated Urango by a wider margin on the scorecards than Ricky Hatton did" after the Berto-Urango fight. That's a lie - check BoxRec for the scorecards.

    Max said "Rahman is taking this fight on THREE weeks notice" during the Rahman-Klitschko HBO telecast. Old news reports on boxing sites can verify it was SIX weeks notice - Rahman agreed to the fight in late October and fought Wlad on Dec 13.
    I'm second guessing the time wasted in responding but here goes

    Or maybe he thought the established 10 yr vet champ held the advantage over a full frontal buzz saw from across the pond who had yet to step in with the best or come Stateside. Not sure if Max digs Korean Milfs and not sure what they have to do with it but many people had Tszyu thumping Hatton and Hatton turned the boxing world on its head.

    Nope, he said he belongs and that he respects him. Lets be honest Wlad did have a bit of a cake walk and Kellerman was no different than many doubters. Shit, the entire network wrote Wlad off as 'premium' network time because style and approach in his late years . I smell a much much broader conspiracy bud. Grab the Reynolds wrap. Kellerman slammed Wlad early on as did more than a few when he was bounced off the canvas with Sanders and Brewster. Max didn't go there because he was a spastic Jewish boxing nerd in a designer leather jacket hiding an agenda...he went there because Wlad had legitimate doubts that we all saw.

    Just interested to know where Max said Hopkins was robbed? I know that kicked up all over the place, here included but was it the same night he called Calzaghe a legit truly great fighter and top p4p? And when telling him for landing the most punches ever on Hopkins. Or when he said Calzaghe would beat a prime Spinks in The Ring? You see you can do this hunt and peck all day finding dumb-accurate things any blowhard on a live mic says. Contradiction about a live moving sport in the archived world. Or on a keyboard . Kellerman may be a lot of things, but he wears it one the sleeve, has done some research and isn't afraid to admit he's wrong...if you threaten a wedgie! If you're stuck on Max being a Jew, then you're stuck and there you will remain. This is boxing talk after all.

    seriously if he said Hopkins was robbed vs Calzaghe I have to see that . That's just bad. My god that was an ugly fight.

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