Joshua v Miller - June 1st NYC

[powerpuncher]

At the moment, this is about the best fight for AJ so I’m not upset about it. Now I will be very upset if doesn’t fight the Wilder and Fury winner after though.

[Master]

Well AJ missed his April date at Wembley and now has adapted his plan to fight in the USA. I am sure it is not his preferred option but he is still getting big money and a potential new market.

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world and yet more people will be interested in the Wilder v Fury 2 fight than his own. He has only himself to blame.

[Ron Swanson]

Well AJ missed his April date at Wembley and now has adapted his plan to fight in the USA. I am sure it is not his preferred option but he is still getting big money and a potential new market.

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world and yet more people will be interested in the Wilder v Fury 2 fight than his own. He has only himself to blame.

Your last paragraph is exactly my issue with him.

[Memphis]

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world and yet more people will be interested in the Wilder v Fury 2 fight than his own. He has only himself to blame.

Do people genuinely believe this though? I mean real people, not the divs on Facebook and Twitter who call people casuals because they're a bit more pragmatic about the whole it's all Eddie's fault narrative.

For sure Eddie could have made the Wilder fight in a heartbeat (assuming Wilder actually wants it of course, shock horror). Just adopt the Charles Martin approach and pay way more than you want to achieve what you want, simples.

There seems to be no blame attached to Wilder at all, he is whiter than white in all this and a victim of Eddie's underhand tactics.

Like it or not, even if you take the poorest offer (the alleged flat fee) that Eddie made to Wilder and his people, he knocked it back. He knocked back the most money, for the best (undisputed) fight and in turn accepted less money for a poorer (vague grasp on the lineal title) fight.

[Master]

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world and yet more people will be interested in the Wilder v Fury 2 fight than his own. He has only himself to blame.

Do people genuinely believe this though? I mean real people, not the divs on Facebook and Twitter who call people casuals because they're a bit more pragmatic about the whole it's all Eddie's fault narrative.

For sure Eddie could have made the Wilder fight in a heartbeat (assuming Wilder actually wants it of course, shock horror). Just adopt the Charles Martin approach and pay way more than you want to achieve what you want, simples.

There seems to be no blame attached to Wilder at all, he is whiter than white in all this and a victim of Eddie's underhand tactics.

Like it or not, even if you take the poorest offer (the alleged flat fee) that Eddie made to Wilder and his people, he knocked it back. He knocked back the most money, for the best (undisputed) fight and in turn accepted less money for a poorer (vague grasp on the lineal title) fight.

The majority of the blame is with AJ, he is The Man of the division who can make the fight happen at the click of his fingers like Thanos. However he is not willing to do it.

[Memphis]

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world and yet more people will be interested in the Wilder v Fury 2 fight than his own. He has only himself to blame.

Do people genuinely believe this though? I mean real people, not the divs on Facebook and Twitter who call people casuals because they're a bit more pragmatic about the whole it's all Eddie's fault narrative.

For sure Eddie could have made the Wilder fight in a heartbeat (assuming Wilder actually wants it of course, shock horror). Just adopt the Charles Martin approach and pay way more than you want to achieve what you want, simples.

There seems to be no blame attached to Wilder at all, he is whiter than white in all this and a victim of Eddie's underhand tactics.

Like it or not, even if you take the poorest offer (the alleged flat fee) that Eddie made to Wilder and his people, he knocked it back. He knocked back the most money, for the best (undisputed) fight and in turn accepted less money for a poorer (vague grasp on the lineal title) fight.

The majority of the blame is with AJ, he is The Man of the division who can make the fight happen at the click of his fingers like Thanos. However he is not willing to do it.

Can he though? From his position he/Eddie can offer more money than anyone else for sure, but that offer has to be accepted no? What makes you/people believe that this hasn't happened? We know for fact that Wilder was offered more money for a better fight against AJ, why would you knock that back for a lesser fight with lesser prestige and for less money?

[smashup]

The Hearns are responsible for the AJ v Wilder fight not being made. Barry Hearn still pulls the strings when it really comes down to it at Matchroom and he's been quoted multiple times saying that "We have a 7 year plan for AJ"

Do i think AJ should have taken that $50 million offer (if true) - Yes

Do i think AJ (just signed a new Matchroom/Sky/DAZN contract) had any say in that decision - No

One thing im certain of is that Joshua fears nobody and will be the King of the Trio.

Its all about the money at the end of the day.

[Memphis]

Do i think AJ should have taken that $50 million offer (if true) - Yes

This one still does the rounds on Facebook, Twitter and the like. Apparently and again it depends on who you believe, what your obligations are, but there was never any way that 'offer' was ever getting off the ground due to the BT implications attached to it.

There are a million videos of Hearn talking about it, always saying the same thing, it was bogus due to the BT, contractual stuff yadda yadda. OK fine, prove it, show us the email, memo, contract, whatever it was. Scribble out all the email addresses and phone numbers and show it to us, if it's true take that opportunity to pull Wilder, Finkel, Warrens pants down live on TV, why would you not do that?

Unless there are legal reasons for not doing it, you can only assume that Hearn, and Wilder's mob for that matter want it this way. They don't want to put this to bed, they'd rather the swirl of claim and counter claim with no real evidence presented continued. To what end I don't know.

Both sides of the fence claim to have documented evidence that the other is a bit of a cunt yet do nothing about it. The onus should be on Hearn for that. Wilder went on to fight Fury so he has a pass. AJ is fighting the fight he doesn't really want and you'd think they would offer up some evidence as to why.

[Master]

I have little doubt AJ would beat Wilder. Anthony is by far the more superior technical boxer of the two and would land his bombs first and knock out Wilder.

AJ should have moved heaven and earth to make that fight especially after seeing what Fury did to him.

If there is a long term plan for AJ then he will keep taking the easier option every time.

[smashup]

When you think about it this has all turned out better for fight fans, AJ will beat the absolute shit out of Miller and look good doing it which sets things up perfectly for a mega unification fight with either Fury or Wilder.
If its Fury v AJ thats 100% going down at Wembley (90,000 fans and 10pm UK time 😎) 2 UK fighters, promoters and tv networks guarantee that.
If its Wilder it'll go down in Vegas or NYC.
We haven't had an epic year in the Heavyweight Division like this in around 25 - 30 years.

[Ron Swanson]

When you think about it this has all turned out better for fight fans, AJ will beat the absolute shit out of Miller and look good doing it which sets things up perfectly for a mega unification fight with either Fury or Wilder.
If its Fury v AJ thats 100% going down at Wembley (90,000 fans and 10pm UK time 😎) 2 UK fighters, promoters and tv networks guarantee that.
If its Wilder it'll go down in Vegas or NYC.
We haven't had an epic year in the Heavyweight Division like this in around 25 - 30 years.

Worse fights are better for fight fans?

AJ doesn’t need a showcase to fight Wilder or Fury next. He just has to choose to fight them.

[Kirkland Laing]

Why did dagestanboxing get banned? He's come up with some brilliant posts.

[Alpha]

AJ by KO.

[smashup]

Hearns planning a top undercard for this 👌🏼

The promoter told IFLTV: “I’m looking for a major fight for [Joshua] Buatsi there if he can come through [Liam] Conroy, I’d like to take Josh Kelly there.

“I’d like to do Tommy Coyle vs Chris Algieri, Ricky Burns vs Ray Beltran.”

“I’d like to do Kal Yafai vs [Donnie] Nietes in a unification fight, there’s some other world championship fights I’m looking at as well.

“I’m hoping as well that if Katie Taylor can get through [Rose] Volante, maybe we can do the undisputed with [Delfine] Persoon for all the belts.”


https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/4...ler-undercard/

[Primo Carnera]

Hearn and Joshua are coming in for shit loads of stick on social media for this fight.