Fury-Wilder Off. Who do they fight now?

[Primo Carnera]

Not sure how people get anywhere in the UK with the love of roadblocks

I don't think it's just the UK to be fair, it's a global thing. I mean, Al Haymon is the biggest "Roadblock" in Boxing. "sign for me and fight once in a blue moon!" or "Give up your World Title and fight some meaningless guy instead!"

[smashup]

Back in the day NOBODY thought Lewis v Tyson could happen but HBO & Showtime were able to do a deal.
I can see this being delayed simply because ESPN won't want their new signing Fury kicking off his 3 fight deal with a loss to Wilder.
That totally devalues their investment in Fury and his pulling power drops massively for the remaining 2 fights.
Hope im wrong.

[smashup]

Deontay Wilder claims Tyson Fury rematch can still take place after ESPN deal

“I’m a free agent, I can fight anyone, I don’t necessarily have to fight on the networks that I’m on, I can fight anywhere."


https://www.givemesport.com/1454647-...al?autoplay=on

[Master]

Reality is that rival networks have only ever worked together twice Tyson v Lewis and Floyd v Manny Pac.

The money/interest has to be at that "off the planet" level and I do not think the fight is there for that to happen yet.

If Wilder is a free agent and the money is right then it could go ahead as planned.

[Spicoli]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

[TitoFan]

TV networks and boxing promoters (you could probably add a third one being the boxing orgs)
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Boxing fans

[Beanz]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

[Primo Carnera]

Can't blame Fury and Arum locking up leverage. I think it's worse for Wilder if it falls through and not being capable of linking up with AJ was bad enough but now he's in the same boat with a guy who arguably beat him and stole his shine. Networks getting together is never out of the question and it's happened more than a few times when the money is there for all. Remember Carbajal v Gonzalez? Arum worked with Showtime and Forum promotions to make the first ever PPV 108 lb main event and make both millionaires. Shoot they even a mixed announce team and two separate ring announcers. Buffer did ring intros for Carbajal and Jimmy Lennon for Chiquita Gonzalez. Produced a helluva classic too .

I don't think it is beyond Arum, particularly with Wilder being a free agent. Bob has already said build it for September.

The problem is an inactive unmotivated Fury. Already Tyson is offering Miller out for a bare knuckle fight in a field for a hundred grand ffs.

“Build it for September”? Up until a week ago, it didn’t need “building”. I thought the first fight did that?
This bullshit talk is just so they can buy time and so that the upcoming opponents and matchups aren’t criticised too much .
Like I said before, you can’t blame Fury, who wouldn’t take that dough?
I see the WBC Head honcho has Put a few sound bites out today, but they’re as much to blame for this Mexican stand off. They’ve let the tail wag the dog for far too long.
The one who must be feeling the most vulnerable and pissed off is Wilder! Fury and Joshua’s dough is locked in whoever they’re fighting, while Wilder will still be on relative peanuts without them two.
Ironic really. The twat didn’t want to take on anyone remotely good in 40 fights. Now he’s gonna have to beg for a piece of the action.
Still, he’ll be fine . After all , he’s a “Free agent” and he’s got Al Haymon advising him.

[TitoFan]

Simply a case of ESPN wanting to strike while the iron's hot, banking on the real possibility of Fury beating Wilder in an eventual rematch. Had they waited for the rematch, they could've easily been low bidder in a frenzy feeding for Fury. This way they tie up the commodity, just in case he turns out to be everything he himself says he is. Oh..... and the boxing fans waiting for the rematch? F*ck 'em.

[Fenster]

Wilder is a "free agent" like all Al Haymon fighters, it's just a coincidence they all fight on the same networks and are represented by the same bods. Wonder why they play that narrative?

[Freedom]

Fury will probably fight someone who has a connection to Top Rank/ESPN - perhaps Bryant Jennings or Oscar Rivas. Pulev has a deal with Top Rank, but he's already scheduled to fight this spring.

Some on other boxing forums are suggesting Wilder will face former WBC champion Sam Peter, who fights a warm-up in Mexico later today.

[Ron Swanson]

Not sure how people get anywhere in the UK with the love of roadblocks

I don't think it's just the UK to be fair, it's a global thing. I mean, Al Haymon is the biggest "Roadblock" in Boxing. "sign for me and fight once in a blue moon!" or "Give up your World Title and fight some meaningless guy instead!"

I was being sarcastic. I assume you are as well or this looks foolish after the details of Tyson/Wilder and how Bob Arum stopped the rematch came out.

[Primo Carnera]

Not sure how people get anywhere in the UK with the love of roadblocks

I don't think it's just the UK to be fair, it's a global thing. I mean, Al Haymon is the biggest "Roadblock" in Boxing. "sign for me and fight once in a blue moon!" or "Give up your World Title and fight some meaningless guy instead!"

I was being sarcastic. I assume you are as well or this looks foolish after the details of Tyson/Wilder and how Bob Arum stopped the rematch came out.

if you were being sarcastic, it wasn't a very good effort. and No, I wasn't being sarcastic, and it doesn't look foolish, because Tyson, Wilder , AJ at least fight . and Arum puts on fights. they may not be the fights we want, but they are fights. they do this, because if they didn't they wouldn't earn any money.
Whereas Al Haymon's guys don't fight , and he doesn't give a flying fuck, because he's "not a promoter, he's an advisor"
so technically, it's not his money anyway.

[Master]

Deontay Wilder set for May return with Dominic Breazeale the touted opponent after Tyson Fury rematch collapses.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...-fury-rematch/

Breazeale explained to PBC on Fox: “Me and Dillian Whyte’s people have been talking.

“But with this news on Wilder coming out, I can’t pass on a world title.

This will mess Whyte up a bit.