Faith in the US media

[walrus]

If there are more investigations to come then I guess we're in for the same BS we've been subjected to for two years. In some ways one Presidential term isn't really a long time when you think about it. It's pretty obvious Trump will not be impeached. If there was something "impeachable" against Trump, the Dems and media would've dragged it out already and it would be over with.

To me it's a combination of the Dems intense dislike for Trump, which ironically has kept them from concentrating on the important issues. The battle seems to be who can defeat Trump in 2020 rather than who is the best candidate period. The other half of the coin is Trump himself, incredibly divisive and cunningly using this divisiveness to his advantage. So we have Trump and his enemies alternating between offense and defense, with the Mueller report being the political equivalent of a missed 3-point shot. Still.... with their insistence on having the whole report made public, they're hoping for that offensive rebound and put back for at least 2 points.

What could be four years of sustainable growth and progress, not only economically, but socially and other areas like immigration control, the environment, energy and the infrastructure.... has devolved into a 3-ring circus where the Dems have lost sight of the country's needs as they try with all their might to take Trump down. Trump meanwhile revels in the battle, playing defense and switching to offense..... he lives for this kind of shit.

I've never seen a POTUS where the opposite sides are so frustratingly extreme and unyielding in their viewpoints. It's comical and tragic at the same time. Bottom line is few useful things get done what with all the backbiting, attacking, defending, countless investigations, etc.

What we'll probably see is Trump's opposition FINALLY find something on Trump they can use..... just in time for the next election. What a sham.

The Democrats don't want to impeach Trump. For weeks now they've been ratcheting down the impeachment talk. Pelosi recently said he isn't worth impeaching. They want to run against a wounded trump in 2020 rather than nice boring Mike Pence and four percent unemployment.

The public agree with the Democrats over immigration, healthcare, entitlements and the environment. Which is why it's so difficult to do any deals with Trump. Don't hold your breath.

You've never seen a situation where both sides were so partisan? You're not old enough to remember the nineties then. The head of the GOP intelligence committee holding an outdoor press conference to shoot a watermelon with his personal firearm to demonstrate how he believed Hillary Clinton had shot somebody in the head.

The new dem radicals certainly want to impeach trump. Pelosi is trying to maintain and strategize. Investigations will continue as they have they jus need to adjust the narrative. They are doing so successfully with the obstruction thing which even master in England is grasping. You bring up the Clinton’s, they hired private investigators to dig up dirt on the Starr team. Documents removed from fosters office. But no obstruction. I never believed The Clintons killed anyone but the suicides amongst staff were quite odd.

[Freedom]

[Beanz]

[walrus]

Wtf. Is that the good old days of southern democrats fighting integration or a different old days that better suits you

[Kirkland Laing]

Wtf. Is that the good old days of southern democrats fighting integration or a different old days that better suits you

They did used to fight integration and were responsible for Jim Crow and all the rest of it. The entire south used to reliably vote Democrat in every election. The southern states are a sea of unbroken blue on every election map of the fifties and sixties. But then the Democrats signed the Civil Rights bill and told all their politicians to get on board or get out of the party. The GOP saw a huge opening here and became the party of white racism and now the south votes reliably red in every election.

[walrus]

Wtf. Is that the good old days of southern democrats fighting integration or a different old days that better suits you

They did used to fight integration and were responsible for Jim Crow and all the rest of it. The entire south used to reliably vote Democrat in every election. The southern states are a sea of unbroken blue on every election map of the fifties and sixties. But then the Democrats signed the Civil Rights bill and told all their politicians to get on board or get out of the party. The GOP saw a huge opening here and became the party of white racism and now the south votes reliably red in every election.

Oh I seem to recall that. I guess you don’t know the details cause LBJ pulled a fast one to get that one signed in the south. You may not be aware but LBJ said if we pass this bill we will have the blacks voting for us for the 100 years. Although he didn’t use the word blacks. So nice try Kirk but your take on US history is a bit off. Go to the Brexit thread I’m sure you have that perfect

[mrbig1]

Fox news takes the cake when it comes to bullshit. They make the working class seem like satan while the rich are the poor inncent victim. My head hurts just watching it.

[Kirkland Laing]

Wtf. Is that the good old days of southern democrats fighting integration or a different old days that better suits you

They did used to fight integration and were responsible for Jim Crow and all the rest of it. The entire south used to reliably vote Democrat in every election. The southern states are a sea of unbroken blue on every election map of the fifties and sixties. But then the Democrats signed the Civil Rights bill and told all their politicians to get on board or get out of the party. The GOP saw a huge opening here and became the party of white racism and now the south votes reliably red in every election.

Oh I seem to recall that. I guess you don’t know the details cause LBJ pulled a fast one to get that one signed in the south. You may not be aware but LBJ said if we pass this bill we will have the blacks voting for us for the 100 years. Although he didn’t use the word blacks. So nice try Kirk but your take on US history is a bit off. Go to the Brexit thread I’m sure you have that perfect

What he actually said when he signed the bill was to the effect that the Democratic party just lost the south for a generation. Or fifty years or something like that. Turns out it's going to be longer than fifty years. Getting ten percent of the country to vote for you at the expense of the eighty odd percent white majority at the time doesn't seem to me like a smart political move. And it wasn't! It was the right and moral thing to do though.

I don't want to know about the Brexit thread. It looks likeit's going to be the biggest self inflicted economic disaster any country has ever managed to achieve.

[Freedom]

Beanz dishonesty on display once again. In his quote, he changed my post, turned it into a lie.

THIS is real racism: