Who beats Mike Tyson?

[Master]

I disagree with X regarding Tucker. I recall Tucker shaking his head when Tyson would run in with a flurry, indicating he wasn't hurt .

When he was forcing Tyson back in the 15th round, was left thinking why he didn't do that earlier.

Tyson never fought 15 rounds with any fighter, it was 12 with Tucker.

Tyson did have a 15 round fight scheduled with Biggs but he was brutally destroyed in 6 or 7 rounds. Distinctly remember seeing Oprah Winfrey in the crowd looking horrified as Tyson knocked down Biggs. Tyson infamously said that "Biggs was screaming like a girl" when he was getting hit.

[sanatogen]

Indeed, for some reason It stuck in my head as 15, even to the point I rewatched it last weekend and thought they'd cut the last 3 rounds out.

Stand corrected

[Baal]

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[Master]

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[mrbig1]

First of all I always thought Tyson was overrated. He had the head movement and busy for the first two or three rounds After that he would slow to a snails pace. Against Tucker Tyson threw 412 punches. Bowe threw 711 punches vs Holyfield. That's almost 300 more. Plus Tyson would always look to clinch rather than fight his way out. If Tyson is being out worked then he is beatable. Let's remember that it was Holyfield who loss 2 out his last 4 fights one by KO before the Tyson fight. Yet you could tell early that Holyfield came to fight. Watch the video Tyson is the one who wants to clinch. I think Ali and Marciano were great. Not because they were unbeatable. It's the fact you would have to kill them in order to win. Tyson like most bullies lack the heart of a Champion.

[Master]

First of all I always thought Tyson was overrated. He had the head movement and busy for the first two or three rounds After that he would slow to a snails pace. Against Tucker Tyson threw 412 punches. Bowe threw 711 punches vs Holyfield. That's almost 300 more. Plus Tyson would always look to clinch rather than fight his way out. If Tyson is being out worked then he is beatable. Let's remember that it was Holyfield who loss 2 out his last 4 fights one by KO before the Tyson fight. Yet you could tell early that Holyfield came to fight. Watch the video Tyson is the one who wants to clinch. I think Ali and Marciano were great. Not because they were unbeatable. It's the fact you would have to kill them in order to win. Tyson like most bullies lack the heart of a Champion.

Whilst I agree with the bully mentality and it certainly was illustrated in his losses, Tyson was more than just a 2 or 3 round fighter. At his best he was dangerous for 12 rounds.

Sure Tyson did start fast but that was part of his strategy to knock out his opponents early. If they survived they still took a beating and tired later on anyway normally to be stopped.

Tyson would get into clinches but that was mainly his opponents doing.

The Tyson that lost to Holyfield, in fact the version that came out of prison was hollow and a shadow of the peak Tyson.

[mrbig1]

First of all I always thought Tyson was overrated. He had the head movement and busy for the first two or three rounds After that he would slow to a snails pace. Against Tucker Tyson threw 412 punches. Bowe threw 711 punches vs Holyfield. That's almost 300 more. Plus Tyson would always look to clinch rather than fight his way out. If Tyson is being out worked then he is beatable. Let's remember that it was Holyfield who loss 2 out his last 4 fights one by KO before the Tyson fight. Yet you could tell early that Holyfield came to fight. Watch the video Tyson is the one who wants to clinch. I think Ali and Marciano were great. Not because they were unbeatable. It's the fact you would have to kill them in order to win. Tyson like most bullies lack the heart of a Champion.

Whilst I agree with the bully mentality and it certainly was illustrated in his losses, Tyson was more than just a 2 or 3 round fighter. At his best he was dangerous for 12 rounds.

Sure Tyson did start fast but that was part of his strategy to knock out his opponents early. If they survived they still took a beating and tired later on anyway normally to be stopped.

Tyson would get into clinches but that was mainly his opponents doing.

The Tyson that lost to Holyfield, in fact the version that came out of prison was hollow and a shadow of the peak Tyson.

You make your point very well. Have to agree to disagree.

[sanatogen]

Indeed, for some reason It stuck in my head as 15, even to the point I rewatched it last weekend and thought they'd cut the last 3 rounds out.

Stand corrected

This may be the reason 15 rounds stuck in my head all that time for the Tyson vs Tucker Fight.

It was originally scheduled to be 15 rounds, but last last minute all three governing bodies went for 12 rounds.