Today in Trump

[walrus]

Dudes Trump is so far ahead of you he is playing 12d chess. Just hang on. Trump is moving the pawns right now he is just getting warmed up.

I am much less optimistic than Lyle and apparently as Assange was being dragged out he shouted that the UK should resist and said that the Trump administration was behind it. I maintain that this is something very serious and bad. Trump is not that smart, he hardly has the IQ of an academic or an astrophysicist. He is a businessman and has gone broke more times than you or I have. He is not that special.

Listen to these clowns as it was announced. The same people that deny democracy in the UK and ignored the UN who said he was being unlawfully detained. The same people who spent millions of pounds incarcerating a man only to storm in when they decided the Emperor had enough. Absolutely gut wrenching sickness permeates every cell of every one of those vile people. A bunch of howling dogs cheering at the arrest of a journalist who revealed crimes. You would expect nothing less.

It’s all part of the plan. Assange will but some pieces together. It’s just moving a rook. Have faith miles. Many wanted to kill this man. Trump is saving him

[El Kabong]

Spicoli hold me to it.

Barr has seen 100% of the Mueller report. Think he'd miss step this bad? I don't think so.

He'll hold an investigation and he'll find what he finds. I'm guessing he'll find spying WITHOUT predication.

[El Kabong]

Just in from former FBI Director James 'Boy Scout' Comey "I've never thought of" electronic surveillance as "spying"

Orly?

[Kirkland Laing]

Trump's other pick for the Fed board of governors:

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/sta...07711175311368

And even at the end of this he's bullshitting. A few years ago when Obama was prez and commodity prices were falling across the board he was calling for higher rates. People like this having any kind of influence at the central bank is anothe rstep towards banana republicism.

[Kirkland Laing]

Julian Assange will bring information about the murder of Seth Rich

The Mueller report says quite clearly and in full detail that the various thefts of DNC/Democratic/Clinton campaign electronic documents were carried out by the Russians and then disseminated via Wikileaks and other outlets.

[Gandalf]

Couple of vile old criminals alert. Kirkland's heroes!

[Gandalf]

"He has to answer"? You couldn't make it up.

[El Kabong]

Julian Assange will bring information about the murder of Seth Rich

The Mueller report says quite clearly and in full detail that the various thefts of DNC/Democratic/Clinton campaign electronic documents were carried out by the Russians and then disseminated via Wikileaks and other outlets.

Awww that is precious. I wonder how you'll react to Assange's testimony if he says anything contrary to that narrative.


Any statement on former White House Counsel Greg Craig being indicted?

[TitoFan]

Dudes Trump is so far ahead of you he is playing 12d chess. Just hang on. Trump is moving the pawns right now he is just getting warmed up.

I am much less optimistic than Lyle and apparently as Assange was being dragged out he shouted that the UK should resist and said that the Trump administration was behind it. I maintain that this is something very serious and bad. Trump is not that smart, he hardly has the IQ of an academic or an astrophysicist. He is a businessman and has gone broke more times than you or I have. He is not that special.

Listen to these clowns as it was announced. The same people that deny democracy in the UK and ignored the UN who said he was being unlawfully detained. The same people who spent millions of pounds incarcerating a man only to storm in when they decided the Emperor had enough. Absolutely gut wrenching sickness permeates every cell of every one of those vile people. A bunch of howling dogs cheering at the arrest of a journalist who revealed crimes. You would expect nothing less.

It’s all part of the plan. Assange will but some pieces together. It’s just moving a rook. Have faith miles. Many wanted to kill this man. Trump is saving him

Damn, and we thought Jim Jones was persuasive......

[El Kabong]

Damn, and we thought Jim Jones was persuasive......

Well let's look at the situation is it POSSIBLE that Assange could be used to bring down Hillary and other bad actors? Absolutely. Likewise it is POSSIBLE that the USA is just nabbing a villain (in the eyes of some especially politicians) and are finally bringing him to justice.

We will have to wait and see what happens but as far as likely possibilities....with Trump in charge who touted WikiLeaks during his campaign yet due to legal reasons and also to drive a news cycle he'll distance himself, but if Assange can nail HRC and the DNC and torpedo this narrative that "WikiLeaks got info from muh Russians" then I'm thinking Trump will WELCOME his testimony.


But hey we'll wait and see

[TitoFan]

Damn, and we thought Jim Jones was persuasive......

Well let's look at the situation is it POSSIBLE that Assange could be used to bring down Hillary and other bad actors? Absolutely. Likewise it is POSSIBLE that the USA is just nabbing a villain (in the eyes of some especially politicians) and are finally bringing him to justice.

We will have to wait and see what happens but as far as likely possibilities....with Trump in charge who touted WikiLeaks during his campaign yet due to legal reasons and also to drive a news cycle he'll distance himself, but if Assange can nail HRC and the DNC and torpedo this narrative that "WikiLeaks got info from muh Russians" then I'm thinking Trump will WELCOME his testimony.


But hey we'll wait and see

Just to be clear... I'm not anti-Assange. Nor would I shed a tear if Hillary had been embroiled up to her neck in Dem primary shenanigans and was thoroughly exposed. My only point is that Trump just feeds the mainstream media narrative of being a liar, and it's a huge mistake IMO. There's other ways to distance yourself from something if you're the President. You don't have to blatantly LIE about it.

The Jim Jones and Kool-Aid comment was not for you, BTW. It's for those who simplistically claim that it's all part of this elaborate Trump "master-plan" and that he's somehow dozens of moves ahead. It's the kind of sheep comment that the extreme left constantly gets accused of.

[El Kabong]

Just to be clear... I'm not anti-Assange. Nor would I shed a tear if Hillary had been embroiled up to her neck in Dem primary shenanigans and was thoroughly exposed. My only point is that Trump just feeds the mainstream media narrative of being a liar, and it's a huge mistake IMO. There's other ways to distance yourself from something if you're the President. You don't have to blatantly LIE about it.

The Jim Jones and Kool-Aid comment was not for you, BTW. It's for those who simplistically claim that it's all part of this elaborate Trump "master-plan" and that he's somehow dozens of moves ahead. It's the kind of sheep comment that the extreme left constantly gets accused of.

I get what you're on about with Trump lying, HOWEVER my point is "How do you think the media will respond to that?" I'm thinking it'll be something like bringing up previous clips of him at rallies big upping WikiLeaks and explaining what they have....OR they could just call him a liar flat out. It's no skin off Trump's nose either way. 1 way they do it it exemplifies Trump's narrative which is "WikiLeaks has dirt on Hillary" the other is a disingenuous lie by omission and neither are stories the media want to run with I don't believe.


But hey could be he totally forgot....could be he's hiding something....there's endless possibilities.



I know what you're getting at and hell I don't know what the future holds for any of this. I'm just making educated guesses with the information I have access to.

[TitoFan]

Just to be clear... I'm not anti-Assange. Nor would I shed a tear if Hillary had been embroiled up to her neck in Dem primary shenanigans and was thoroughly exposed. My only point is that Trump just feeds the mainstream media narrative of being a liar, and it's a huge mistake IMO. There's other ways to distance yourself from something if you're the President. You don't have to blatantly LIE about it.

The Jim Jones and Kool-Aid comment was not for you, BTW. It's for those who simplistically claim that it's all part of this elaborate Trump "master-plan" and that he's somehow dozens of moves ahead. It's the kind of sheep comment that the extreme left constantly gets accused of.

I get what you're on about with Trump lying, HOWEVER my point is "How do you think the media will respond to that?" I'm thinking it'll be something like bringing up previous clips of him at rallies big upping WikiLeaks and explaining what they have....OR they could just call him a liar flat out. It's no skin off Trump's nose either way. 1 way they do it it exemplifies Trump's narrative which is "WikiLeaks has dirt on Hillary" the other is a disingenuous lie by omission and neither are stories the media want to run with I don't believe.


But hey could be he totally forgot....could be he's hiding something....there's endless possibilities.



I know what you're getting at and hell I don't know what the future holds for any of this. I'm just making educated guesses with the information I have access to.

A bonus would be to see Hillary smeared in dog feces, as I've always had an intense dislike for that lady.

[El Kabong]

A bonus would be to see Hillary smeared in dog feces, as I've always had an intense dislike for that lady.

Ha, "lady" you're too kind



I really do hope Hillary gets caught red handed trying to have Assange killed, obviously I'd want Assange safe, but to catch her evil ass in the act would be quite pleasing to me. Too many people with "information on the Clinton's" have wound up dead for it to be a mere coincidence.



She wanted to be handed the Presidency....she rigged her primary and nobody fucking talks about it not even Bernie!!! Which if I had ever been a Bernie fan woooooo boy that fucking sellout bastard. How did he in good faith accept contributions from people working 9-5 jobs living paycheck to paycheck up to their eyeballs in school debt and then he turns around and just takes the primary being ripped away from him right on the chin....who the fuck could do that? But I guess that doesn't matter to Millionaire Socialists with 3 fucking houses


How ANYONE buys the bullshit that bastard is selling is beyond me

[Beanz]

Have to say that whole Barr 'bomb shell' really looks like just a massive distract and distort job. One minute he says it..then he back peddles right after it and says "I wasn't saying there was spying' etc. Um yeah ya were fella . No evidence, no details just some stammering rehashed talking point to chum the waters with conspiracy jibber jabber and make Potus high five himself. Very shady swerve I believe.

Back peddles Where do you get that? He's saying it DEFINITELY occurred the question remains over if it was predicted or not ergo he's going to have to investigate. Huber and Horowitz and their investigations might have a say about that.

The Democrats are calling for Barr to walk his statements back. It's almost like they are disappointed Trump did NOT collude. Odd.

I'm enjoying it.


Now that Assange has been arrested I wonder what happens to him. I hope he testifies in front of Congress and he's kept safe and can lead a normal life after.

Really?

Yeah Assange is quite full of himself, he'll get his though.

He makes Tony Blair look humble.

Imagine my shock when that fat worthless sack of shit Michael Moore said he would pay for part of Assange's bail. There's not enough bullets for those two bastards.

That is all I have to contribute to this thread.

You celebrate what this guy does and why? Because it makes America look bad and to you that is apparently something that vindicates your feelings all along. Well I'm not going to tell you how to feel about America, perhaps my view on politics is a bit too Machiavellian for you, but I live in the real world and shit happens and it's better that it happens to other people in other countries than to America.

Assange doesn't care, he just likes being the center of attention, he has no ties to one place or another, he just wants to wield what little power he has, make his money, and be a cult hero.....I don't see it ending well for him though.

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

#1 Let's just say I know of the type of people who would do what Assange does....I do not think highly of them and I am certain that he has nefarious motives

#2 Well first off Michael Moore is what you accuse Fox News of being, he's a liar and he twists and manipulates the truth until it fits his contorted derranged idea of truth. Chomsky is just a fucking nutjob liberal. So yeah I expect you to hold Assange in the same regard as those guys because you buy what they are selling, that's fine that's a personal choice do as you like.

#3 The US could be a lot more savage...compared to many other nations we're tame and I think we do what we do just to survive and protect our citizens and our standing in the world.

#4 There are weapons that can destroy all the human life on earth...we're bound with other countries in what is at times a very shakey peace, I fail to see how releasing secrets which may hurt us but definently won't help us makes the world a better safer place miles...is that impractical? Is that jumping to conclusions? and does releasing secrets knowing and understanding what I have just mentioned seem like something that will help the world become a better place? I'm trying to place my line of logic in your hands miles....I'm saying Assange COULD release cables that endanger not only America but the entire world we're talking nuclear apocalypse. How does he know that what he releases won't cause any friction between the US and China or Russia or North Korea or Iran etc. As World War I taught us, all it takes is for 2 countries to decide to duke it out and then bang it's World War 3 and it will be a doozy

I heard somebody hacked into Assange's email and apparently the guy is a sexual deviant...apparently he stalked that 19 year old girl he raped. Of course I haven't seen any of those emails, but I'll check on them.

Well they weren't emails to the girl he allegedly raped, but they were to a 19 year old girl and ....well apparently we've found a guy creepier than Clubber.