Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

[El Kabong]

The thing is anything goes in comedy or at least it did. I was watching Gervais last night mocking the name change of The Spastics Society to Scope. Now obviously Ricky Gervais has nothing personally against anyone with something like Cerebral Palsy. It is just a comedy routine. Sure feelings might get 'hurt', but at the end of the day a JOKE is a JOKE. If you don't want to listen, then don't listen to Ricky Gervais. It's a big world with lots of speech out there. Hate speech law is something that needs to be abolished. As long as someone is not threatening violence or outright telling porkies, then you should be free to say what you want in the crucible of ideas.

Some of Gervais' funniest stuff is when he pokes fun of the Bible. I consider myself Christian but I'll still have a laugh at that. The bit that irks me is not everyone joins in which makes me wonder why of course. Are you that serious that you never laugh? Are you too insecure in your faith? Is your faith too good for some levity? Do you think your religion is above all and can't be mocked?


Hate speech is bullshit. Let people say bad things at least you know who is thinking that shit. You can make a mental note to avoid them. And who decides what "hate speech" actually is? The SPLC and ADL and CAIR and NAACP, and La Raza and GLAAD cover a few bases, but not all and they aren't objective either.

[Gandalf]

I always highlight double standards and you cannot hide from the fact that a man had money taken from his bank by the state for a joke and another woman punched a man and another chap physically assaulted a man and seemingly not a problem. I cannot reconcile that and I think most people looking at that would feel the same way.

I think Robinson is hated by the establishment and media and the reason he is shut down is because people do like him. Otherwise, why not let him dig a bigger hole? He did them over like with Panodrama, he draws crowds, was huge on Facebook. The only way they can stop him is to silence him but along the way the media and system degrades itself further. People are not that dumb.

[El Kabong]

People don't like Tommy Robinson and don't want to hear from him because he's working class. He's just your typical run-of-the-mill 9 to 5er down at the pub going to see the football matches having a pint. But the problem is he dares to talk politics and that's not for Working Class People that's for the cultured Elite.

It's a very similar to why people hate Trump he's nouveau riche he's tacky he's Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack. In other words he doesn't belong in their world and at the end of the day that's the major problem.

I just finished reading Bret Easton Ellis new book White and the disdain that these Coastal Elites have for flyover country rural America is oozing out of them and I can only think that's worse in Britain.

Want a laugh? Carl Benjamin (Sargon) goes out, talks to random voters, debates random voters ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH HIM, and what does Labour immediately do? They follow his route, they don't debate or even give original thoughts but they're the "ruling class" so they speak in an erudite manner and have that affected haughty accent and spout platitudes. They look and sound AWFUL! Carl Benjamin could be a political somebody he's got some smarts to him. He'd be a very interesting MEP and I'd certainly pay attention should he be elected

[Fenster]

You just have to listen to the middle class champagne socialists in the media, when they imitate racists/crims/morons they do cockney/working-class accents. The hypocrisy is blatantly obvious. Their jokes are "edgy" not racist. Their violence is justified/funny not thuggery. They advocate "punch a nazi" whilst disgusted by football hooligans.

[Beanz]

You just have to listen to the middle class champagne socialists in the media, when they imitate racists/crims/morons they do cockney/working-class accents. The hypocrisy is blatantly obvious. Their jokes are "edgy" not racist. Their violence is justified/funny not thuggery. They advocate "punch a nazi" whilst disgusted by football hooligans.

Nobody is denying hypocrisy or large swathes of the media having an agenda, they are often the mouthpieces of huge non-British corporations after all, but it is important that if you are going to call people out on hypocrisy (and this is not directed at you) that you do so across the board, and not just the Alt Right or the SJWs, the tories or the lefties but also the supposed 'alternatives'.

Who can honestly say they can come up with a more obvious example of an elite career politician using the system and the genuine fears of people to line not only his own and families pockets, but to also turn his back on the opportunity to actually do his job and represents the rights of the people who elected him?




You don't get much more waffy than a double barrelled moniker like old Hugh's but the bloke rolled his sleeves up while Nige was sparking up his £80 cigar and living it up on his expenses the twat

[El Kabong]

What specifically has lead you to believe this stuff about Dr. Peterson? I'm trying to see that side, but can't for the life of me. Perhaps it's because I've studied Psychology and understand the concepts or maybe it's due to my upbringing but whatever it is we have very different takes on just what Dr. Peterson is saying and promoting.

Dr. Peterson grew up in the middle of nowhere Alberta Canada. If he was a nihilist he never would have made it out much less to Harvard of all places.

[Beanz]

What specifically has lead you to believe this stuff about Dr. Peterson? I'm trying to see that side, but can't for the life of me. Perhaps it's because I've studied Psychology and understand the concepts or maybe it's due to my upbringing but whatever it is we have very different takes on just what Dr. Peterson is saying and promoting.

Dr. Peterson grew up in the middle of nowhere Alberta Canada. If he was a nihilist he never would have made it out much less to Harvard of all places.

This probably not the place or thread to go into i depth but maybe this will explain things a little before I maybe explain in more detail. I am the son of an anthropologist and psychologist who while working as a psychoanalyst by day also wrote about and studied the history of religion. So when Peterson pretends to understand the anthropological and religious basis of his own world view it is quite obvious to me that he is much more of a post modernist than he dare face up to. A big part of that is the nihilsm that informs everything he does. He admits to being terrified and keeping himself in that state in order to justify his own existentialist version of Judeo-Christianity. The problem is he does not understand the Isaiah and Jeremiah and the other prophets/archetypes that Jesus emulated. He does not understand how this has informed even the most basic and rudimentary forms of justice in the post hellenic west and neither does he have anything but a very cursory grasp of Philosophy or even the Marxism that he opposes.

The arrogance of a man who publishes his own 'Letter to the world' is a sure sign of that egocentric refusal to buck up and look in the mirror that Peterson and many Psychologists suffer from. My old man included. So when Peterson who blinds people with psuedo logic calls out SJWs as nihilsts it just reveals his own lack of any moral compass. I mean make your mind up Jordy what is it? are they moralizing or pretending that nothing matters anyway? His whole frame of reference and invented logic is very post modern. He uses his own very flimsy non-comittal version of being a Christian without actually believing in God to look down on others and proclaim them as being weak. He is committed to the idea of competition and fighting tooth and nail for your place in a capitalist neo liberal society but also granting himself the illusory cloak of Christian superiority over the godless atheists and Marxists at the same time. When Neitzsche found the men in the market place had killed God by not believing in him he recognized that there were those that still believed but that these new men would have to create their own values. Peterson is pretending that is impossible whilst not even understanding the history of the beliefs he is at once sort of, but not really subscribing to. He wants to have his cake whilst eating it. He is a postmodernist.

What Peterson really believes in is a conspiracy theory. The ideathat the academic world that gave him a job and supported him is run by some over arching leftist (Jewish) secret PC super beings. He winds people up getting them angry and turning them onto his victim religion in which they are the victims. It is a bleak dark nihilst fantasy. He is an angry fragile furious little man very much like the extreme Islamic hate preachers he mirrors in so many ways. He will use the same threat of apostasy and blasphemy, calling anyone who does not subscribe, idiots and morons, because he is so desperate to be given meaning. A meaning he thinks he gets from subscribers and likes and his followers laying themselves down in his name. He is one dangerous mutha fucker just like Tommy, not because he promotes violence against others, but because he legitamizes nurturing that bitter resentment and hate that blames the other, and grows the capacity for violence within his supporters.