Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

[Beanz]

Actually you have admitted to needing MRI's because you have been knocked out so much, but as you were. You need to look back at some of your posts and see the language used and the rhetoric. You make it very personal when it comes to Tommy Robinson and others like Jordan Peterson. 'Nihilism'? Are you having a laugh? Taking control of your life and trying to improve yourself is nihilism? You must use a different dictionary to the one I use.

If you notice it is people coming to Robinson with anger and he is not showing very much anger himself until he ends up bopped or what have you. Antifa and groups like this are by very definition fascist themselves. They don't want to hear ideas that do not suit their own agenda and I actually consider you somewhat similar as you dismiss people too without giving them a chance. If you would actually read what Robinson says you will see what he is like. Far from perfect of course, but certainly able to admit where he goes wrong and he does a lot that is right. You have your own agenda. I don't know why you think you don't as it is evident in your years of posting. I do not deny that I have an agenda and have admitted as much privately to you. I am not cloaking myself in fake neutrality here, I am not pushing for Masters job.

Robinson as Jesus/Robin Hood/Sam Bellamy. Absolutely and why not? A man that goes up against the system, is willing to give his life for a cause, and TPTB want to crush him and yet still he goes on. Politics is something he probably never wanted, but felt he had no choice in the end as he has been shut down in every other way. If they had just let him have his You Tube or what have you he would have stuck with journalism.

Who says I am enamored with Milo? I do think he is very interesting and raises thought provoking points, but I have certainly never bought a book of his or anything like that. What has Sargon ever done for anyone? Well, he has raised consciousness for many who probably haven't read up on philosophy, politics, or what have you. He has denounced the far right and is basically a bit like me in being a traditional Labour person who cannot stand people in the Labour Party today. He clearly has a following.

Seriously, why not get out for the day and check it out? Maybe have a chat? Sargon will talk to anybody and seems to enjoy hearing a counter point of view. For such a nobody you will likely end up watched by more than half a million people in a couple of days. Good publicity.

You do hate on them as evidenced by how you react to Peterson, Chomsky, Akkad, Robinson, and people like that. Douglas Murray is another one. No big deal, but seems silly to deny it.

I didn't need an MRI after being knocked out 'so much'. Twice. I never even went to hospital back then in my early twenties after fights. The MRI scans I have had more recently were to assess the damage done by Ankylosing Spondylitis and Psoriatic Arthritis and to image a leaky heart valve. So again you are just projecting this angry persona in order to avoid engaging with the argument. It is very obvious to anyone without this baggage you bring that in a thread supposedly about free speech, you are again trying to dictate the terms that you think are acceptable. I don't need your permission to use the language with which you make your living (and sometimes puts food on my table) in a way you deem acceptable. I feel passionately about things, and express that in a rather unfiltered way that most other people may not, but that is not the same as being some unhinged angry person. That is the very same tactic all these celebrity provocateurs you are so captivated by and their detractors do.

Peterson is a neo liberal and like you he shares an aristocratic disdain for modernity but it his paranoid conpiratorial take on politics that mark him out as a nihilist. He subscribes to the very American idea that the world is full of winners and losers. This is the man who believes that happiness is a pointless goal but that you should nurture your resentment and turn yourself into a monster. He fully subscribes to the Nietzschean idea of a meaningless universe with a moral vacuum after the death of God and he wants to impose his own very destructive ignorant Christian existentialism over not only the chaotic world, but those he sees as weak within it. Look at the miserable cunt He is there as the big Daddy therapist for twats like the bloke who shot 50 muslims in NZ and what does he do ? makes excuses for them. 'Oh killing 50 Muslims does not make you Islamophobic it means you are a postmoderm Cultural marxist'

He can't even take responsibility for the monsters he has nurtured and created. Your heroes are fucking warped mate.Sargon or whatever he calls himself thinking that joking about not raping someone is worth not only refusing to apologise for but now double downing and pretending that being willing to rape someone is somehow now more acceptable as a joke. Rape is not about sex it is about power and that is what feeble men like Carl Benjamin crave. A full on coke head like Tommy they both need to grow up a bit.
Why are neither Yaxley -Lennon or Benjamin running for election in their own towns or counties even? They want to join those you call TBTB not change anything. There are much bigger problems than Brexit and Political Correctness to face up to right now, and yet here they both are telling us that Muslims and women knowing their place is supposedly a 2019 issue that Britain needs to deal with first. I am still not sure if you are doing an Alan Partridge to be honest. Here you are now after opening a thread with a YouTube video of Tommy spouting his victim rubbish claiming he is some censored heroic journalist, now also claiming he is some Messiah like figure going to die for the common man


What it comes down to is they have a following. You seem to crave the same notoriety. I don't want that kind of publicity. I am not Brock I have a life

[Gandalf]

I am quite sure you admitted in the past that you have been in fights and knocked about. Now, the truth of all of that is down to you. All I know is that you do 'sound' rather angry when it comes to Robinson and Co. Nothing wrong with being passionate however. Mind you if somebody wanted to hit me on the head they would need a ladder. Sure, nothing wrong with being passionate, but let's play fair here, I mean, I do on occasion get called unhinged, extreme, and mentally ill myself on here. Tito is a riot when he gets into a flow. And no Tito I am not starting another war with you!

The politics itself IS nihilistic. The politics is what has opened borders. The politics is what has given rise to identity politics. The politics is what has killed millions of people around the world. The politics is what creates authoritarianism. The politics is what has driven mass inequality. Now on that final point I think inequality is natural and normal, but inequality driven by government policy is an abomination. Politics is incredibly nihilistic and unhelpful at its current juncture. In making these points I am not even referencing anything Peterson has said, but that is my own take on modern politics. I find it incredibly grim, incredibly unhelpful, and incredibly harmful. Nihilism is the lacking of morals and taking away meaning for ordinary people. I think making white working class children the worst performing members of society because all too many come from broken homes, are neglected, and have their own culture denigrated incredibly cruel and nihilistic. For sure politics at its current juncture is nihilistic and people are angry and this is seen in Brexit, in people dumping Labour and Tory, in people starting to lash out. The chap in New Zealand was created more by modern politics. He saw things he couldn't handle in France, he built up an incredible level of nihilism and lost all hope and lashed out in a horrible way. Rather than criminalizing manifestos, it is better to ask questions, debate, discuss, and ask what creates such monster. And I don't think you will find that Jordan Peterson creates them. It is more likely the politics of the last 20 years or so. And let us not pretend that these are the only monsters. We saw hundreds of Christians murdered only a few weeks ago in far greater numbers, there is no comparable outrage. Whenever kids get blown up in Manchester we are told 'It is not all Muslims'....'It is the religion of peace'. Do you really think Peterson says the same kinds of things quoted by 'those' terrorist attackers? What Peterson will admit to is that each of us has a darkness inside of us and that we must tend to that side with caution and wariness.

What is warped about not wanting to rape someone? Do you want to rape people? I know I don't! Do you not find it warped that Jess Phillips thinks it is hysterical that men seek health treatment more reluctantly than women and die earlier as a result. Is it funny that men kill themselves in such numbers? On this very forum we have had conversations on this kind of topic recently. It is NOT FUNNY! And she is a horrible person for mocking it. The media doesn't care about that! Now if Sargon wants to say that he will NOT rape someone then surely that is better form than laughing at men who kill themselves! It has been dragged up by the media 3 years later for ONE reason only and you KNOW exactly what that reason is. Nobody is getting raped over it and it is the media that keeps going on about an ANTI RAPE comment but keeps calling it a rape comment. Beanz, I wouldn't even rape you or anybody, so surely you can see that it is nothing comment. Walrus will probably like me for saying that. I am hardly pro rape am I? When Walrus said he simulated raping an old girlfriend I straight away said that it was a very weird thing. Even acting it out is way beyond my weird compass. Forgive me for not being open minded and post modern enough.

Those two are campaigning where they are for logistical reasons. Probably. The North probably has a lot of Robinson supporters. In fact most places outside of London want out of the EU. Robinson likely feels that is where he can have an influence. Now it is unknown if they will even be successful, but the response by the media is very telling indeed. People want Brexit and they are not going to rest until they have it. I don't particularly crave any notoriety either, but I do not flinch.

[Beanz]

I am quite sure you admitted in the past that you have been in fights and knocked about. Now, the truth of all of that is down to you. All I know is that you do 'sound' rather angry when it comes to Robinson and Co. Nothing wrong with being passionate however. Mind you if somebody wanted to hit me on the head they would need a ladder. Sure, nothing wrong with being passionate, but let's play fair here, I mean, I do on occasion get called unhinged, extreme, and mentally ill myself on here. Tito is a riot when he gets into a flow. And no Tito I am not starting another war with you!

The politics itself IS nihilistic. The politics is what has opened borders. The politics is what has given rise to identity politics. The politics is what has killed millions of people around the world. The politics is what creates authoritarianism. The politics is what has driven mass inequality. Now on that final point I think inequality is natural and normal, but inequality driven by government policy is an abomination. Politics is incredibly nihilistic and unhelpful at its current juncture. In making these points I am not even referencing anything Peterson has said, but that is my own take on modern politics. I find it incredibly grim, incredibly unhelpful, and incredibly harmful. Nihilism is the lacking of morals and taking away meaning for ordinary people. I think making white working class children the worst performing members of society because all too many come from broken homes, are neglected, and have their own culture denigrated incredibly cruel and nihilistic. For sure politics at its current juncture is nihilistic and people are angry and this is seen in Brexit, in people dumping Labour and Tory, in people starting to lash out. The chap in New Zealand was created more by modern politics. He saw things he couldn't handle in France, he built up an incredible level of nihilism and lost all hope and lashed out in a horrible way. Rather than criminalizing manifestos, it is better to ask questions, debate, discuss, and ask what creates such monster. And I don't think you will find that Jordan Peterson creates them. It is more likely the politics of the last 20 years or so. And let us not pretend that these are the only monsters. We saw hundreds of Christians murdered only a few weeks ago in far greater numbers, there is no comparable outrage. Whenever kids get blown up in Manchester we are told 'It is not all Muslims'....'It is the religion of peace'. Do you really think Peterson says the same kinds of things quoted by 'those' terrorist attackers? What Peterson will admit to is that each of us has a darkness inside of us and that we must tend to that side with caution and wariness.

What is warped about not wanting to rape someone? Do you want to rape people? I know I don't! Do you not find it warped that Jess Phillips thinks it is hysterical that men seek health treatment more reluctantly than women and die earlier as a result. Is it funny that men kill themselves in such numbers? On this very forum we have had conversations on this kind of topic recently. It is NOT FUNNY! And she is a horrible person for mocking it. The media doesn't care about that! Now if Sargon wants to say that he will NOT rape someone then surely that is better form than laughing at men who kill themselves! It has been dragged up by the media 3 years later for ONE reason only and you KNOW exactly what that reason is. Nobody is getting raped over it and it is the media that keeps going on about an ANTI RAPE comment but keeps calling it a rape comment. Beanz, I wouldn't even rape you or anybody, so surely you can see that it is nothing comment. Walrus will probably like me for saying that. I am hardly pro rape am I? When Walrus said he simulated raping an old girlfriend I straight away said that it was a very weird thing. Even acting it out is way beyond my weird compass. Forgive me for not being open minded and post modern enough.

Those two are campaigning where they are for logistical reasons. Probably. The North probably has a lot of Robinson supporters. In fact most places outside of London want out of the EU. Robinson likely feels that is where he can have an influence. Now it is unknown if they will even be successful, but the response by the media is very telling indeed. People want Brexit and they are not going to rest until they have it. I don't particularly crave any notoriety either, but I do not flinch.

Miles there is so much wrong with this it is hard to know where to start. You seem to be obsessed with an equality of outrage much like the SJW's you think you are so markedly different from. Dressing up some childish Z list celebrity gaming gurus jokes about Rape as being some ANTI RAPE comment or pretending that Jess Philips even if she is a twat was mocking men's suicide and so the joke was justified is pathetic. It is very disingenuous and just proves how little objectivity you have nowadays. I don't really understand why you think you need to resort to endorsing these sick fuckers, but it has nothing to do with free speech. Tommy has his supporters harassing a bullied teenager , closing down a rape helpline, etc and there is silence from you, so don't pretend that you have a shred of objectivity left when it comes to these things anymore. You don't even notice yourself doing it.

'The North probably has a lot of Robinson supporters' ha! That is your patronising defense of Tommy refusing to represent his own area, just like Sarkycock thinking the westcountry is an easy touch for his UKIP death march. Fenster points out Tommy and his crew starting punch ups in city centres around the country and you ignore it. Is it all a bit too much hard work for you to think for yourself anymore and so you just subscribe to these utter losers? surely not?