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The predictable anti-immigration argument this has descended into is a clear example of the scapegoating that has come to replace facing any real search for truth or answers. It is a false argument that is not truer for being repeated again and again. immigration not only creates jobs and wealth it is what has made Britain Great. Anyone who argue oterwise knows very little about the history they pretend to value.

Immigrants, the disabled, the unemployed are all rolled out as excuses for spending cuts and the church of austerity. Look at the heart of this tread and what is alleged. It could just as easily be Titled -


White English Bloke gets 28 days in Prison, Foreign Muslim scum gets let off by the PC babies in power



The resentment is not just palpable it is blatant. People want an easy life and they think difficult questions, even competition for work is unfair whilst telling us what good little capitalist slaves they are. You could not make it up. So bitter are they that anyone suggesting that a bloke who has been in and out of prison going around the country starting fights and demonizing Muslims might be a bigot that they have to resort to calling people mentally ill or having Daddy issues or being an arrogant prick.

The anti immigration thing is a very handy fake news distraction from the real issues and the divisiveness and encouragement toward violence is very clear whenever Tommy is mentioned. It is not coincidence it is exactly what he wants because hilariously he can't be bothered to get a proper job.
Well I'm very much against ILLEGAL immigration, but if you'd like to stretch that to immigration as a whole fine, paint me with that brush as well. As long as America has homeless citizens let alone 1 single solitary homeless veteran, then yeah I'll be happy to stand by "Fuck all immigrants" 100%. I always state that America already has certain issues which we need to fix before we should attempt to fix the world's problems. We don't need to import more killers or rapists or welfare leeches. That's obviously not to say that 100% of ALL immigrants are those things, but I AM saying we don't need any more of those, we're full we've got enough. We'll take the best doctors, we'll take the best scientists, we'll take the best engineers, but let the blue collars catch up a bit, let the average worker see a pay rise, let the average person boost their income before we start trying to save every single NON American the world can throw at us. What of assimilation? What makes Americans or Brits American or British? What binds their people together as citizens of America or England/UK?

I'm sorry you are put off by my caring about my fellow countrymen, I would have assumed you'd care more about your neighbor than some person from way far away. Are there BAD American and British citizens? Yes as sure as there are BAD immigrants! To not admit that is to deny reality.

Diversity for the sake of diversity is not a strength and if it is, please show your work on that. I liked when Americans loved their country and didn't think it brave or admirable to burn the flag or wish death to the President or chant "No USA at all"....which they're certainly free to do but when they act on such a thing the consequences should be swift and severe. America has diversity we don't need to import more, the UK has diversity perhaps so much that one can no longer tell the UK is the UK and not Riyadh unless you take the weather into account.

Well the last time Tommy was in prison A#1 he was railroaded by your court system and is likely to be railroaded again...what better way to FOSTER resentment than by having the government treat a citizen in such a manner while at the very same time that very same government has ALLOWED (and some participated) from 20-30 years of grooming gangs!!! Resentment is an issue? take it up with your government as they're the origin of it! And #2 Last time Tommy was in jail he lost 40 pounds of weight because he ate 1 tin of tuna a day as he figured the other inmates who made his food (guess who, since he was PURPOSELY moved to a prison with a high population of ______) may have poisoned/tampered with it. But I suppose "he asked for it" will be the response, it's as if he was a young girl in Rotherham....they asked for it too don't you know.

I know of NOBODY who says "Tommy Robinson is the perfect man" that isn't even on my radar in the discussion about immigration.

Capitalism works, that simply cannot be denied! This bastardization of Capitalism called Corporatism is a totalitarian version of it in which the Corporation now makes the laws and governs the people....and I don't like that I think it's just as bad as Communism and this Immigration push, Globalization push, it'll help the powers that be (the Political and Economic) take your rights away and if you don't see that coming then I don't know what to tell you.
Miles whom you quoted never makes the distinction between legal and illegal immigration. It is all bad to him and if the guy is victim of western bombing with no legs, it is all the more hilarious for him to scapegoat. So you see I am not painting anyone with a brush at all. If the first thing you type when talking about immigrants is 'Killers, rapists and welfare leeches' though, one would have to assume you are no more immune to Fake News than those you claim to be so different from. Don't forget i never started this thread I am in no way obligated to fall over myself to reinforce this ridiculous idea you have been sold of Tommy as a freedom fighter he is the complete opposite.

Of course I do not care more about my neighbour than someone form far away. That is literally the opposite of Christianity. Anyone can look after their own that is why Jesus talked explicitly about not crossing the road because the person in need was not like you. It is why the hollow excuse of protecting what makes the British Brits or Americans American or Even protecting the values of a Judeo/Christian nation are just excuses for bigotry. Most people don't even begin to understand let alone value, cherish and preserve that they pretend to give a shit about. It's about looking after number one just like Tommy.

Can you not see how daft you telling a British person in Britain when you have never even visited here that 'you can not tell the UK is the UK anymore' is? Not just daft but arrogant. You can buy into the rubbish weirdos like Gnarl of Tarragon and little Tommy like to spin or you can ask people who actually have no axe to grind and live here. It's not about Tommy being the perfect man it's about him showing no respect for the rule of law you keep telling us is paramount. He came to your country with a false passport and you choose to ignore that and then expect people to believe it's about illegal immigration. He risked collapsing a series of linked trials in which the perps were given 200 years and still you want to portray him as the victim? Come on man, move on and learn something. Tommy is an opportunist.

And capitalism absolutely does not work, like every other system it has a shelf life . You are correct in that the bastardization of it that is corporatism is a totalitarian version of it, but it was always it's logical conclusion. People will have to learn to co-operate and share responsibilities, there is no going back. We can't pretend that the world is not what it is and go back to the feudal idea of borders and boundaries that put the majority of land and resources into the hand of a privileged few. Peoples heads were cutt off and the blood filled the streets to get the capitalism that for many has become a secular version of religion. Look at the fervour and superiority that Al and Miles display when they talk about religion as some primitive thing that idiots believe as though they can exist without the natural world that inspired those beliefs. It is a replacement with pilgrimages to Michelin restaurants for one and the elevation of pompous arses like Morrisey,Wilde and Burroughs into Gods for the other.

Don't forget Tommy never exposed one pedo, never helped convict one (quite the opposite) and cannot even bring himself to follow the laws of the country that he does no favours in lying about to the rest of the world. People are quite correct about there being an agenda but it is Robinson and his crowd that are pushing it. The exact same agenda Murdoch and all the other corporate foreign owners of the British and American MSM are pushing and have been for years.

Don't look at us blame your brothers.