Corbyn attacker get 28 days in prison, Robinson attacked and police do nothing.

[Master]

Tommy Robinson's offer of MEP salary rejected by charities

Tommy Robinson’s pledge to donate his hypothetical European parliament salary to child victims of sexual grooming has been criticised as “an insult to survivors of abuse” by women’s groups who said he was “no ally for the children he claims to stand up for”.

More than 40 women and charities including the End Violence Against Women and Girls Coalition declared in a letter to voters and community leaders in the north-west that they would not accept money from the English Defence League founder, criticising Robinson for “factually incorrect messages about grooming”.

Robinson – whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – frequently singles out Muslims as being behind grooming gangs and has been accused of selectively publicising certain child sex abuse cases to promote a wider anti-Islam agenda.

The coalition of women’s groups said Robinson exploited the pain suffered by victims in a self-serving attempt to fuel racial hatred.

“We, as organisations and individuals fighting tirelessly against the abuse of women and girls, as survivors of abuse and their families, and as people who care about our communities, do not want your money, Tommy,” the letter read.

“Those who have suffered sexual and physical abuse were failed by those who should have protected them. But Tommy Robinson is no ally for the children he claims to stand up for. Tommy doesn’t care about the rights of women and girls – he is exploiting the pain of survivors and their families to fuel racist hate for his own gain.”

It added: “Tommy Robinson’s factually incorrect messages about grooming, and his attempt to portray himself as a champion of the cause, are an insult to survivors of abuse.

“They are also a profound insult to the women who have spent their whole lives building support services for survivors and working to ensure some cases finally got to court. Where were you during that work Tommy Robinson?”

Signatories also included author and Women for Refugee Women founder Natasha Walter, Rape Crisis Surrey and Sussex, Rape Crisis South London, the Women’s Centre Cornwall and Gurpreet Virdee, a director at the Women and Girls Network.

Announcing the commitment two weeks ago in a YouTube video as part of his campaign to become an independent MEP in the north-west, Robinson criticised “arrogant” politicians on a “gravy train with no end in sight” as he announced he would not keep earnings from being an MEP, if he were elected.

“They need to think of the victims, not of their own politicisation of the situation, that money is to go to any victims of sexual exploitation, including Muslims,” Robinson said of the letter’s signatories.

“They are in no position to turn down money, they shouldn’t be. They should be in the position to help victims and if that money helps victims, which it does, gets them off the waiting list for counselling, then they are playing with the victims, not me.”

Matthew McGregor, from anti-racism campaigners Hope Not Hate, said: “This is one of Tommy Robinson’s most cynical stunts. Abuse survivors don’t need someone whose main interest is in funding his already lavish lifestyle and spreading hatred.”

In the weeks since launching his campaign for the 23 May election to become an MEP on a monthly salary of about £7,500 before tax, Robinson has twice been struck by milkshakes and police are investigating a number of alleged assaults that occurred during his recent visit to Warrington.

The far-right activist has been funded by a number of rightwing organisations around the world and claims to have raised several hundred thousand pounds via online donations.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartanntp

[Gandalf]

How do they know what Robinson feels? And what are his incorrect positions on grooming? Articles like this never back up what they say with any evidence. Maybe he should give directly to victims. Meanwhile another 40 arrested for grooming in Rotherham.

[Gandalf]

Good turnout, powerful speech. The man is in his element.

[Beanz]

14 Typical features of facism

1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
7. The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”
8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

[Beanz]

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

[walrus]

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

George Carlin made a joke about rape when he said you can make a joke of anything

[Beanz]

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

George Carlin made a joke about rape when he said you can make a joke of anything

He also said it depends on how you construct the joke. He also said " i've got nothing against the feminists I happen to agree with most of the feminist philosophy I have read. I agree for the most part that men are vain greedy brutal assholes who have just about ruined this planet because they afraid someone might have a bigger dick out there. Men are basically insecure about the size of their dicks and so go to war over it"

He made a lot of points you and most of the people quoting him would rip the piss out of other people for stating.
Benjamin also said he would not be happy if someone said what he did to his own wife.

Benjamin could also not make a joke if his life depended on it. You both have that in common.

[Gandalf]

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

1. What does this have to do with Tommy Robinson and legal bias? You blame others for 'derailing threads', but do just that.

2. Most people here think you sound angry and frustrated, but you say you aren't. Maybe he is a bit like you? Or maybe you just want him to be angry thus making you a bit of a hypocrite. I mean, he really seems more upset about belittling male issues more than anything. Oh, and media smears and lies.

Of course in a sardonic or jokey comment anything goes. But if it doesn't look like he is joking? Well, I am quite convinced that the married father is not joking when he says he wouldn't rape her. You have a humor bypass. In the old days Derek and Clive and Rik Mayall would say whatever they liked and people either laughed or turned it off. You are the forum Mary Whitehouse.

You could always ask him, politely of course too in case he is really, really angry, but you won't talk to 'nobodies'. Thus you hide behind your keyboard going 'Waah! He won't rape someone!' It is so weird.

[Beanz]

What Benjamin says

"Once again BuzzFeed position themselves as the progressive joke police. I stand behind David Baddiel's justification about why any subject can be the subject of a joke. The alternative is a world devoid of humour, the essential tool we use to reduce the horror of events that are beyond our control"

What Baddiel actually saidKate McCann says, "So it's acceptable to joke about raping a woman?" And Carl Benjamin says - well, shouts - "YES! ANY QUESTIONS?" The thing is Carl: you don't look like you're joking. You look like you're consumed with rage.

1. What does this have to do with Tommy Robinson and legal bias? You blame others for 'derailing threads', but do just that.

2. Most people here think you sound angry and frustrated, but you say you aren't. Maybe he is a bit like you? Or maybe you just want him to be angry thus making you a bit of a hypocrite. I mean, he really seems more upset about belittling male issues more than anything. Oh, and media smears and lies.

Of course in a sardonic or jokey comment anything goes. But if it doesn't look like he is joking? Well, I am quite convinced that the married father is not joking when he says he wouldn't rape her. You have a humor bypass. In the old days Derek and Clive and Rik Mayall would say whatever they liked and people either laughed or turned it off. You are the forum Mary Whitehouse.

You could always ask him, politely of course too in case he is really, really angry, but you won't talk to 'nobodies'. Thus you hide behind your keyboard going 'Waah! He won't rape someone!' It is so weird.

Bringing up Rape is his way of using violence. Rape is about violence. He is not a comedian mate he is a cunt, quite why you take it so personally is a bit weird. What do you want me to say?

'oh yes Miles you were right let's not worry about straight white blokes stopping so low in order to maintain an audience they will use victims of child abuse and jokes about rape to keep their subscribers up and their far right deep state patrons pouring the money in. Let's embrace fascists and blame the majority of the UK population who are disgusted by them and demonise them by calling them mentally ill. '

Fucking hell man. Get a life.