Racism/Chimp Pic/BBC/Royals/Danny Baker Sacked

[Batman]

I think that one of the saddest things is that these are conversations that we should be having but as evidenced by the conversation I had with everyone at work people are too frightened for fear of offending someone

2 people came up to me today and said that they really enjoyed it yesterday, they both said that they are concerned that they will say the wrong thing though and could end up in trouble.

crazy to think that people won't share their everyday views for fear of repercussions

[Batman]

prime example, during the conversation people would just say "the N word" rather than nigger, now when I was talking I would just say "nigger" I wasn't saying it to be offensive but it was in context of the conversation, I'm not afraid to use the word but not a single other person would say it regardless of the context.

A while back I told someone that they were being niggardly with their money, I was called out on that, I explained what the word meant and my team leader actually told me that I "probably shouldn't say it anymore" I told her that if someone is being niggardly then I will tell them that they are being niggardly, it is a word that is in my vocabulary and I won't let anyone tell me that I am not allowed to say it.

Apparently you aren't allowed to use words that sound like other words that may be offensive, bollocks

The whole thing reverts back to the freedom of speech argument

[Mark TKO]

N word is dangerous to use now. Wish they’d just get rid of it.

It’s modern society the latest craze is to be offended. Pathetic. Nothing much offends me or others my age.

[Mark TKO]

Talking of N word it always reminds me of this classic Viz letter a few years ago




"HOW come rap artist Dr. Dre can use the 'N' word on his multi-million selling albums and win a MOBO award, yet when I used it at my son's football match I was asked to leave the park? Once again, it's one law for the rich and another for the poor."

Reg Ashcroft, Bradford

[Gandalf]

I think you make a lot of very good points, Batman. People are generally scared to say what they think. I find it very interesting the way people respond to stories like this and how the UK is evolving. I suppose what it all teaches me is that it is not a society I would want to live in.

My own theory is that the mentally ill are mostly those that go along with the charade. Anyone even accepting monarchy is for instance mentally ill. Anyone who is obsessed with political correctness is mentally ill. The truly sane are those wanting free of the Gulag. Just wanting liberty and the freedom to be rude, smutty, silly and not have a hard time over it.

I always compare the UK to North Korea and the inability to speak freely is another aspect of that. Nazi dog salutes are a case in point. It is absurdism and you even get some on here defending the authorities whilst ignoring physical assault which we all agree is bad.

It is a sick society and I consider your attitudes healthy and proper, Batman.

[Gandalf]

Then there are those who know it is nonsense, but stay quiet because they fear shaming and having their lives made difficult. These are potential Winston Smith's and there are many out there. I refuse to accept that everybody is mentally ill. They just pretend to be. However, a lot clearly are.

Harry does actually resemble a chimp and looks nothing like his parents. I honestly haven't seen the baby as I couldn't care less. All babies look like aliens to me anyway. Strange bald things. I prefer cats.

[Gandalf]

My own thoughts on jokes are that anything goes be it gender/race/religion/sexuality whatever. I don't think there are any limits on a joke. Personally I don't really tell jokes like that as I am not very good at jokes. X is excellent at making jokes along those lines and I laugh at those who can do it well, but my way of being funny is more in making odd comments or being provocative.

Take the above about alien babies, it was not so much a joke but more an observation and in the last hour I asked a couple of people what they thought about it and they both thought it was odd, but kind of agreed that they do look a little bit like the Roswell kind of aliens. Obviously not the Sigourney Weaver ones which would of course be far more fun, but more the traditional humanoid type of alien. So a kind of joke, but more laced with observation rather than punchline.

I mean I look pretty great despite impending age and death, but there was no doubt about it that when I was a baby I was as ill defined and inarticulate as any other. I don't take it personally. Beauty or cuteness is something that takes time to develop. You would seldom look at an embryo and say 'That's a stunner'. Just one of them things.

[Beanz]

I think you make a lot of very good points, Batman. People are generally scared to say what they think. I find it very interesting the way people respond to stories like this and how the UK is evolving. I suppose what it all teaches me is that it is not a society I would want to live in.

My own theory is that the mentally ill are mostly those that go along with the charade. Anyone even accepting monarchy is for instance mentally ill. Anyone who is obsessed with political correctness is mentally ill. The truly sane are those wanting free of the Gulag. Just wanting liberty and the freedom to be rude, smutty, silly and not have a hard time over it.

I always compare the UK to North Korea and the inability to speak freely is another aspect of that. Nazi dog salutes are a case in point. It is absurdism and you even get some on here defending the authorities whilst ignoring physical assault which we all agree is bad.

It is a sick society and I consider your attitudes healthy and proper, Batman.

Are you claiming to be mentally ill then? Even though you are clearly 'obsessed by political correctness' that is a bit harsh on yourself. Not that anyone should be ashamed to talk about it.

There has never been anyone to my knowledge ever arguing in favour of political correctness on Saddo. Certainly not a place for free speech though anymore. You express an alternative opinion and get fucking hammered by a bunch of braying hyenas. You won't see it from the middle of the pack though, you need to take a step back.

Considering someone's attitude healthy and proper when they agree with you and mentally ill when they don't demonstrates it.

[Gandalf]

I don't really do political correctness as you well know considering how much you harangue me for critiquing African birth rates, for suggesting the Paralympics is not that popular, or my support for 'far right racist cunts'. If you do the opposite that might well be you! Ha! You have called me an eccentric and I wouldn't disagree. I will leave it at that.